1972 Wildcat Restoration

NewToMe

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This is my very first boat and I wanted something for a project. Turns out I may have bit off more than I can chew. So any and all help is very appreciated!

I bought the boat, trailer and motor for $400. The floor that is in now looks like some sort of plywood and has several holes in it and is cracking if I step on it. I have to pull that up. From what I've seen on pictures throughout here, there seems to be some sort of epoxy that I can layer the bottom with before putting this false, plywood looking bottom back in. Can anyone please specify on this further?
 

bigredinohio

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

There is a lot of information floating around in here. Many decisions to make such as what fiberglass resin to use (polyester/epoxy), what type of wood (exterior grade/marine grade), etc. I mostly used exterior grade cdx from Lowes with epoxy with my restoration.

Good luck and congrats.
 

archbuilder

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

I would take a look at Jays thread, he has some nice videos on how he rebuilt everything. He used wood for his stringers and transom. Most people go that route.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=454460&page=1

You can also look at my thread, I used a composite material for my transom and stringers. Your choice on materials has a lot to do with how long you plan on keeping the boat and are willing to spend on it. Everyone has a different theory, you just have to do some research and figure out what fits you best. I opted for ploy because its cheaper and its what the hull was made out of. With either epoxy or poly prep is the key, clean, roughed up surfaces lead to good bonding. Here is a link to a lot of good info on poly if you go that route. I actually bought all of mine from them. Pay attention to the difference between laminating (unwaxed) and finish resin (waxed). 90% of what you will be doing should be done with laminating resin. the finish resin (laminating resin with the wax added to it) is only for the final coat. Most of the stuff you find at home depot etc is the waxed type.

http://www.fiberglasssite.com/servlet/the-68/Fiberglass-Information%2C-and-How/Detail

Post some pics, that will help us a lot with advice.
 

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

I am really new to this. From what I gather, the transom is the false bottom floor? And stringers are the wood dividing the foam under the transom? How many layers of flooring are there supposed to be? I want to have this boat for a long time, it's going to be a long project for me and I'm sinking whatever money I can into it. From what I read I think epoxy resin would be what I go with, but I'm still unclear as to where it goes on the boat. I am extremely new at this and I'm learning it completely from scratch so please have patience :) I've read that the epoxy is stronger and will last longer. You guys are the boat builders so I'll take your word over something I've read on the internet lol. I've read your posts and went over the links and thank you, I appreciate that. What is a chopped strand mat?
 

archbuilder

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

You can go with epoxy, but a lot of people just stick with poly. Its what the boat is made out of, I used it on mine. You can save a lot of money going that route. That being said, there are a lot of guys on here that swear by epoxy. Here is a link that explains a lot about poly and fabrics.

http://www.fiberglasssite.com/servlet/the-68/Fiberglass-Information%2C-and-How/Detail

I used mat on mine, but a lot of people on here prefer biax.

By the way it sounds like you have the transom and the deck confused. The transom is the rear of the boat, where an outboard bolts on (not sure if you have an outboard or and inboard). The deck is what you would call a floor in a house, the plywood you walk on. As for your deck, usually its a single piece of plywood. A rule of thumb is to replace what is there with the same thing. (assuming it doesn't look like someone has rigged it). What is yours currently built with? I would guess 1/2" plywood, its fairly common.
 

mrallen007

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

Hey there! Let me just say I am in the midst of my first restoration as well. Like you I am new to restoring boats. I have skill in wood working and dealing with tools but have never used them for boat building. From my experience here, I can say you've come to the right place.

A few things I might add...

There are two forums here for boat restorations, one for current projects and one for completed ones. Read them. Read as many as you can. You will find tons of useful information in these. And like me, you may just find the inspiration you need to jump to such a project! It?s a great forum and you?ll learn a lot here.

As far as resin goes, you may also consider vinyl ester resin. It is much like polyester resin in that it is easier to work with than epoxy, but it is stronger than polyester. It is an option you might consider. You can buy it from uscomposites.com. Many people on this site, including me, use US Composites for buying resin and glass.

As far as glass goes, there are several different types of glass offering different levels of strength. It is wise to consider what you are glassing and choose an appropriate glass for that application. For example, your stringers provide much of your boat?s strength. Using 1708 Biaxial glass gives a lot of strength for your stringers. But that sort of glass would be wasted if all you need to do is reinforce the topside of your deck. A lighter duty glass on your deck will spare you some weight and save you some money.

Also consider the weight of your glass and the weight of the resin you?ll add. You don?t want to go overboard and fill your boat with the strongest possible glass because you?ll add a lot of weight to it at the same time. Glass is generally rated by its weight per square foot. There are sites out there that will tell you about how much resin each sort of glass will absorb and how much the resin weighs. You can use this to determine how much weight you are adding to the boat as you build it.

Finally, DON?T BE INTIMIDATED! This may sound like information overload, but you sound like you want to do it right. 

There is a lot to consider but there is a lot of help to be found! Keep us posted on your progress and we?ll be glad to help out. Ask questions. Post pics. There are tons of us out there with different levels of experience to offer some help.

Oh and Chopped Stranded Mat (CSM) is a basic type of fiberglass. It is a light weight mat made of loosely arranged strands of fiberglass. It generally absorbs a bit more resin than other types of glass. As such is used as a general use fiberglass where strength is not really a factor, like glassing the topside of your deck or glassing over your console or something like that.
 

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How can I find out how much my boat weighs? And I've got a picture of the deck that I'm going to attempt to put on here. I will take more to post. Thanks for the info, I intend to watch it promptly! Also, I don't think I can use that company because I am in Canada and it can't be shipped over the border. I looked at the local home depot and cant get it there either. I'm going to continue to search though :) Sorry I can't get the photo uploader to work.
 

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

I am really new to this. From what I gather, the transom is the false bottom floor? And stringers are the wood dividing the foam under the transom? How many layers of flooring are there supposed to be? I want to have this boat for a long time, it's going to be a long project for me and I'm sinking whatever money I can into it. From what I read I think epoxy resin would be what I go with, but I'm still unclear as to where it goes on the boat. I am extremely new at this and I'm learning it completely from scratch so please have patience :) I've read that the epoxy is stronger and will last longer. You guys are the boat builders so I'll take your word over something I've read on the internet lol. I've read your posts and went over the links and thank you, I appreciate that. What is a chopped strand mat?

ok....boat building 101.....read the link in my sig.......after the first 10 pages....you will know the basisics to get you glassing like a pro
 

mrallen007

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

ok....boat building 101.....read the link in my sig.......after the first 10 pages....you will know the basisics to get you glassing like a pro

I like the sound of this. I'll be reading through all that too! I love as much detail as I can get! :)
 

rjwildcat

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Re: 1972 Wildcat Restoration

I as well bought a wildcat and need lots of help, boat in good shape but not sure what year it is. The info i have found on years is the id plate or hull id. mine has neither only a plate next to the steering wheel says manf. and serial num and hr pw 65 poeple 4. It has a Johnson Super Sea-horse 40 on back and does run. I think it is 70 to 72 just need help please! Rj
 
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