1977 johnson 85

[ezeke]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

When you run the motor the water must cover the water pump and be allowed to fill the pump before running. It's easier with muffs, but a barrel should work if you have the water deep enough.

There is an air bleed hole at the top of the metal waterpump liner that needs to be open to vent the air that the water is trying to displace.

I'm still not clear on whether you have the two water tubes inserted into the two holes in the waterpump housing.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

There should be a plate on the port (left) transom bracket that has the model and serial number imprinted upon it. What is that model number?

 

[rick74631]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

model is 85ETLR76D AM ABOUT TO GIVE UP IS SEEMS THE WATER PUMP AINT GETTING ANY WATER TO IT WHEN I TOOK IT APART IT WAS BLACK THE PUMP STILL LOOK GOOD I WONDER IF MY HOUSEING IS ANY GOOD IT WAS ON MY OTHER LOWER UNIT IT WHEN IT FRYED IT NOT ENOUGH GEAR OIL BROKE THE SHAFT AN THE HOUSEING IS CAST IRON I THINK

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

The water pump draws its water from the water intake ports just below the pump. Take the pump off, remove the impeller plate and look down to be sure that the intake is clear on both sides. The screen needs to be in good condition.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

Model number 85ETLR76D is a 1976 85hp Johnson exactly as you state. However, the 1976 85hp incorporates two (2) water tubes. If there is only one (1) water tube attached to the adapter plate (plate that the powerhead sits upon), something is vastly wrong.

Either the upper portion of that engine is a later model than a 1976 OR the water tube has broken off. If broken off the powerhead and adapter plate will require to be removed in order to install a new water tube. What you are attempting to do as listed above, using a single tube, is simply not going to work.

 

[rick74631]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

i took the long tube and cut in half and stuck them on top the water pump i know i need to by the right size and start over and replace the houseing and the gaskets and seals the boat house said the water pump does not take a gasket and damn it i told them i cleaned the old gasket of i guess the new water pump kit has big ring that goes around the water pump houseing i should replace every thing this time it does have two water tubes runing to the top i was just missing one water tube on the top of the water pump really thank all of you takeing time to try and help me thanks every body

 

[rick74631]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

i went and got some water muffs and hook them up and my motor was getting water to the heads it works only with muffs i tryed it in the barrel again and nothing put muffs back on and it works can anyone tell me whats going on now just changed the water pump

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

In a barrel, when you run the motor the water must cover the water pump and be allowed to fill the pump before running. It's easier with muffs, but a barrel should work if you have the water deep enough.

There is an air bleed hole at the top of the metal waterpump liner that has to be open to vent the air that the water is trying to displace.

 

[BradWhitehead]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

Can anyone give a picture of the air bleed screw that needs to be loosened

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

To BradWhitehead: The air bleed hole is a hole at the top of the metal liner in the 1977 85HP waterpump. It feeds to a vent that allows the air to be purged from the pump as it is displaced by incoming water.

Click the thumbnails, please.

 

[BradWhitehead]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

sorry been looking at this crap for so long that im starting to see stuff that wasnt written. If the damn UPS man hurrys up i might be able to get this dang thing done today. I dont see how a motor from 1977 can still be running perfect but any automobile from that year is pretty much scrap metal. Make car motors like boat motors and nobody will ever have to buy a new car because the damn thing broke down. And if your gonna build boat motors so well dont go changing the parts around so i have to order a water pump from deleware or buy each part individually from my dealer and have it get here and be wrong. Sorry ive been ranting but this project has done made me mad

 

[rick74631]

Re: 1977 johnson 85

thanks for everybodys help it takes me some time to catch on but i finally got it working my tub got changed on me that look the same but one is a little deeper got the right one and water shot out the pee holes water was going threw the heads thats one on me sorry for wasting all of your time going to the lake weeeeeeeeeeee