1978 Evinrude 85 HP

raven564

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I am the new owner of what I believe is a 1978 model of the 85 HP Evinrude V4. I say 1978 because there is a sticker that has the spark timing which says "1978 85 HP spark timing" on the intake cover. Obviously the intake cover could have been replaced, but this motor seems mint and all original. I have not done a compression test on it yet, but it seems to be in very good shape.<br /><br />I have two questions about it. <br /><br />1) The starboard jugs (block, whatever you want to call it) run much hotter than the port jugs. I have not run it more than 5-10 minutes at a time, so it is possible that it could even out after running a while. Could this be caused (and a normal condition) by the internal porting of the water flow? Or is this something I should be concerned about? By touch, I would estimate that it is a 50 degree or so difference. By internal porting of the water, I mean does the water hit the port side, cool it, then run over to the starboard side (already warmed by the port side) and then exit out of the motor? Or could I have a blocked water port somewhere internal? One other thought I have is that perhaps the two sides are running at different richnesses? That does not seem likely though. <br /><br />2) When I first got this motor home and tried to crank it, the starter would drag (slow whump-whump-whump when turning key to start) and the pinion would hang on the flywheel. I let the battery charge overnight (brand new) and thought maybe that was it. The next morning with a full charge, the starter did the same thing. At some point while trying to turn it over, I heard a weird sound, then it turned the motor over normally and it started. Could I have a bad solenoid? Starter? Is this a common problem? The starter has done this to me once since then when I ran it out of gas.<br /><br />Before I put this motor on the water, I will likely get a service manual, etc. and check it out thoroughly, but it seems to be a strong motor, in nearly mint condition as I said. The factory paint is still there and is almost spotless. It would kill you folks if I told you what I got the boat and motor for...!<br /><br />Thanks for any recommendations anyone can give me!
 

R.Johnson

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

On a 78, a water pump, and new thermostats would be a good idea. As for the starter, make sure of all the connections, use brass, or stainless nuts on the battery connections, not wing nuts. I still like the look's of those older motors in good condition.
 

Goodoleboy

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

Welcome to the forum!<br /><br />None of us here want to die so please dont tell us...Grin!<br /><br />But please do tell us your model number from that we can tell you what year it is for certain.<br /><br />You likley have an obstruction some place in the watter passages on that bank of cylinders. Or perhaps a thermostat stuck closed, if its been siting for quite awhile. <br /><br />If it has been siting dead for quite some time or your just not sure I would recomed you install a new impeler in water pump.<br /><br />Good Luck!
 

raven564

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

This motor was professionally serviced and tuned up before I got it. I believe the pump should be new... I have excellent water pressure coming out of the tube from what I call the "crankcase cover" so I don't think the water pump would be my issue. <br /><br />About the thermostats: Are these thermostats in the sense of an auto thermostat? Ie... is there a thermostat(s) in there that stays closed until the motor reaches a certain temperature? If there is, that makes sense because the thermostat on the starboard could be hanging closed...<br /><br />Any recommendations on a good service manual? Evinrude? Aftermarket Clymer? etc.
 

raven564

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

One more thing... This boat sank last spring (cold fresh water) and was hauled out after less than 24 hours, driven straight to the local boat mechanic and serviced. Ran for 5-10 hours before being stored for the winter (NY state - cold, snow, ice, etc. on Lake George) and then I picked it up and hauled it home. First she has cranked was Saturday after the servicing and running at the end of last season. So, stuck thermostat might make sense... Where would I find the thermostat?<br /><br /><br />(*EDIT* see below, I found the thermostat.)
 

raven564

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

As requested:<br /><br />Model #85899C<br />Serial #J0006665<br /><br />I don't like having the mark of the beast in my serial... LOL<br /><br /><br />Thanks for the help!
 

raven564

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

OK. Another question. Living in the climate I do, I really do not see much reason for a thermostat. Any problem with leaving the thermostat(s) out assuming that it is a stuck thermostat? I've done it on my old 350, but this ain't quite a chevy truck either. I was able to figure out where the thermostat is located via the parts breakdown I found on the web.<br /><br /><br />Thanks!
 

CATransplant

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Re: 1978 Evinrude 85 HP

Keep the thermostats. That engine is designed to have them, so you need to keep them. Otherwise it will run way too cold and shorten the life of the engine.<br /><br />It was designed to operate at a certain temperature.
 
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