1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

[Reming870]

After some extensive and tedious removal of transom, decking, wiring, seats, cuddy, and FOAM, I am starting to put the pieces back together. I cannot believe the work I got myself into. I started a thread in the Starcraft Forum but I am looking for some larger responses to a few things as I put the puzzle back together.

1. Why not put the 2-part foam in for flotation? Seems economical and easier than cutting up extruded foam. It would be quieter and take less space.

2. Decking. Vinyl or KiwiGrip on top of resin coated plywood? I am using the West System for resin.

3. Need some seating ideas.

4. Need some engine cover ideas. Also sound-proofing??? It may only be a 3.0 Liter, but it can be loud in the tin.

5. Gluvit on the outside or inside? Inside seems to be a problem because it is nearly impossible to remove the old foam remnants from the rivets.


I have a lot more questions to follow.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

After some extensive and tedious removal of transom, decking, wiring, seats, cuddy, and FOAM, I am starting to put the pieces back together. I cannot believe the work I got myself into. I started a thread in the Starcraft Forum but I am looking for some larger responses to a few things as I put the puzzle back together.

1. Why not put the 2-part foam in for flotation? Seems economical and easier than cutting up extruded foam. It would be quieter and take less space.

Simple, no drainage.

2. Decking. Vinyl or KiwiGrip on top of resin coated plywood? I am using the West System for resin.

What do you like better? I headed down the road of sand/paint as I am on a budget. I figure I'm saving $250ish over Durabak/KiwiGrip. Vinyl is a little tricky to look good depending on how you layout your seating.

3. Need some seating ideas.

Are you looking for seat boxes/storage or just want to go with pedestals?

4. Need some engine cover ideas. Also sound-proofing??? It may only be a 3.0 Liter, but it can be loud in the tin.

Few great ones, just click on the "Starcrafts Being Rebuilt" thread in my sig there. Couple of soundproofing ideas in there too.

5. Gluvit on the outside or inside? Inside seems to be a problem because it is nearly impossible to remove the old foam remnants from the rivets.

Inside, outside if you have to.


I have a lot more questions to follow.

Have fun!!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

1. Nothing wrong with 2 part foam but we have seen a number of tin boats with factory-installed poured foam have corrosion issues. I don't think it's the foam itself, but the water it tends to trap against the aluminum. It also can impede proper drainage. If you go that route, consider lining the hull with plastic before pouring.

2. Big fan of my vinyl floor. http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2504.jpg

3. I link this arrangement in the new ones: http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/Picture012.jpg

5. Gluvit on the inside.

 

[MichaelP]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Die grinder with a wire wheel should make short work of cleaning up around the rivits.

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

1. Nothing wrong with 2 part foam but we have seen a number of tin boats with factory-installed poured foam have corrosion issues. I don't think it's the foam itself, but the water it tends to trap against the aluminum. It also can impede proper drainage. If you go that route, consider lining the hull with plastic before pouring.

2. Big fan of my vinyl floor. http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2504.jpg

3. I link this arrangement in the new ones: http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/Picture012.jpg

5. Gluvit on the inside.

Did you lay down the vinyl yourself? I am not sure if I have the kind of finishing skills this may require. I do like that seat arrangement!!!

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Die grinder with a wire wheel should make short work of cleaning up around the rivits.

You would think so, but I have two problems with this.

1. The electric grider I have (4.5-inch) is too big for the tight fitting rivets.
2. The air grinder I have requires more air than my compressor has to operate.

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

After some extensive and tedious removal of transom, decking, wiring, seats, cuddy, and FOAM, I am starting to put the pieces back together. I cannot believe the work I got myself into. I started a thread in the Starcraft Forum but I am looking for some larger responses to a few things as I put the puzzle back together.

1. Why not put the 2-part foam in for flotation? Seems economical and easier than cutting up extruded foam. It would be quieter and take less space.

Simple, no drainage.

2. Decking. Vinyl or KiwiGrip on top of resin coated plywood? I am using the West System for resin.

What do you like better? I headed down the road of sand/paint as I am on a budget. I figure I'm saving $250ish over Durabak/KiwiGrip. Vinyl is a little tricky to look good depending on how you layout your seating.

3. Need some seating ideas.

Are you looking for seat boxes/storage or just want to go with pedestals?

4. Need some engine cover ideas. Also sound-proofing??? It may only be a 3.0 Liter, but it can be loud in the tin.

Few great ones, just click on the "Starcrafts Being Rebuilt" thread in my sig there. Couple of soundproofing ideas in there too.

5. Gluvit on the outside or inside? Inside seems to be a problem because it is nearly impossible to remove the old foam remnants from the rivets.

Inside, outside if you have to.


I have a lot more questions to follow.

Have fun!!

I have been following your thread very carefully and religiously. Good stuff in there, keep up the good work!!!!

I was having fun, but I mentally and physically challenged myself with a June 1st launch date. Now, I'm not so sure of that date.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

I was having fun, but I mentally and physically challenged myself with a June 1st launch date. Now, I'm not so sure of that date.

I gave up on deadlines almost immediately when I started my project. Really, I'm just having fun with the rebuild. So long as I maintain forward motion, she'll get done, someday

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Did you lay down the vinyl yourself? I am not sure if I have the kind of finishing skills this may require. I do like that seat arrangement!!!

Yes I did and my finishing skills aren't real great so I know you can do it.

 

[MichaelP]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Too bad the powered grinders won't work for you. Can you pressure wash? Next option would be 5 gallons of elbow grease and a good hand held wire brush. You can do it!!!!

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

After some elbow grease and a borrowed air compressor I got through most of the rivets and got the Gluvit down. Also started thinking a little more about the Gluvit. If I use it on the inside it is only covering the inside section of the rivet on the stringers, not the whole shaft of the rivet.

More importantly, Motors back in, 20-years of add-on wiring is removed, plus a few wires I probably needed removed. I was in the groove and nothing could stop me!!! Couple more days of work and maybe I can fire her up!!!

Some small obstacles on the alignment, but its all set now. I couldn't get the adjustment nuts to move on the front of the engine due to some rust. A little heat and PB blaster did the job.

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Also managed a little time away from the boat as well. All i could think about was launching the boat, a little disturbing on this hunt.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Gobble Gobble!

Nice

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

What should I be ordering to replace the impeller? Gaskets, kit????

Alpha One 1984. The drive was "supposedly" serviced two years ago.

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Thinking about seats. Would the arm rest get in the way of the throttle for the captains chair?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

What should I be ordering to replace the impeller? Gaskets, kit????

Alpha One 1984. The drive was "supposedly" serviced two years ago.

http://www.iboats.com/Mercruiser-Tr...6937248--**********.892716162--view_id.269626

http://www.iboats.com/Mercruiser-Im...6937248--**********.892716162--view_id.270251

Thinking about seats. Would the arm rest get in the way of the throttle for the captains chair?

Post up a shot of your helm so we can see what you are working with, eh!

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

ALERT!!! FOAM ISSUES!!!!

I calculated 30 cubic feet required of 2# foam. Thats 9 SHEETS of 2-inch foam that 10-ft x 2-ft wide. There is no way I could possibly get that much in the boat.

Any other ideas? Are my calculations wrong?

19 ft Islander 1984 with 3.0 liter and Alpha One.

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

I did't pay enough attention to the fresh air ducts when I removed them.

The fan sucks from the bilge and then dumps where?

The two side vents should be opposite in direction to sweep air across the bilge?

 

[Reming870]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

Turned her over last night. Running good, shifts well. Gotta put the puzzle back together and get her in the water.

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: 1984 19' Islander Coming Back to Life

I did't pay enough attention to the fresh air ducts when I removed them.

The fan sucks from the bilge and then dumps where?

The two side vents should be opposite in direction to sweep air across the bilge?

Not sure I understand your questions but if it?s the setup like my boat you have two vents that face forward, to capture air, near the front of the boat. You have two vents that face back at the rear of the boat near the transom. One of those vents is used by the bilge blower to exhaust any fumes that become trapped below. You should have a length of flex pipe that goes from the blower to the lowest point of the bilge. Hope that helps.
GLG