1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

[ranger14]

Hello,

I have this thing for a while, everytime i try to lower the unit or get it up the fuse near the ignition switch blows. I dock my boat on the lake, so I just had it lowered and then didnt try to get it up again. So it was working fine.

I was riding it ragularly at all kinds of speeds. today I went tubing for the first time and for a ciuple of hours the boat ran fine. But after that my wife heard a thud and the boat just stopped. I was on the tube. The engine still runs fine but it doesnt move.

I looked up here and it appears to have something with water getting into the gear etc. could you please advice if thats what the problem is and also how to fix it. I got the manual with me, and I am mechanically inclined ad fixed few things before.

ENGINE MODEL: 302sthrco S/NO : 835326

oUT DRIVE MODEL: 983486 s/n: j373826

Thank you

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

I forgot to mention about the smoke near the out drive today. It wasn't much but it looked like the exhaust was leaking at the out drive. Also my propeller is chipped on one blade from a previous run in with shallow water. My propeller now doesnt move and when i tried to move it manually after i got home, it doesnt turn, its very hard.

Thank you

 

[Boatin Bob]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

Based on your engine and drive model #'s this is a 1985 stringer OMC drive, does it have the big black rubber boot around it on the transom? Just trying to verify so the right people can answer your questions.

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

It does have a transom seal around it.

Thank you

Based on your engine and drive model #'s this is a 1985 stringer OMC drive, does it have the big black rubber boot around it on the transom? Just trying to verify so the right people can answer your questions.

 

[THE BEEF]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

On the fuse you might want to try unpluging the tilt motor and trying the switch. If it blows you have a short. You can use a OHM meter and check for grounds. If thats ok OHM the tilt motor. Another thing that will blow it is excessive load. Did you grease the pivot points on the drive?
Also check all connection including grounds going to the solenoids,a loose connection will pull high amperage.

On the drive issue, with the boat on the trailer I would bump the engine and see
if the ball gears move. You said the engine ran fine,does it overheat?
You might have stripped the spline on the water pump shaft. This would case the lower unit not to turn.
It appears to have something with water getting into the gear ect.
I don't understand what your saying.

BEEF
I am bi far no expert on these but I do have a 1981 stringer that I
converted to full mechanical shift. I have had mine apart a couple of times.

 

[chiefalen]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

I need to ask you a few questions before i can help you.

1-The boat is on the trailer correct?

2-With the drive down, motor turned off, throttle forward gears engaged, when you turn the prop does the ball gears move?

Did the boat overheat?

Together we will fix the tilt problem latter.

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

On the fuse you might want to try unpluging the tilt motor and trying the switch. If it blows you have a short. You can use a OHM meter and check for grounds. If thats ok OHM the tilt motor. Another thing that will blow it is excessive load. Did you grease the pivot points on the drive?
Also check all connection including grounds going to the solenoids,a loose connection will pull high amperage.

On the drive issue, with the boat on the trailer I would bump the engine and see
if the ball gears move. You said the engine ran fine,does it overheat?
You might have stripped the spline on the water pump shaft. This would case the lower unit not to turn.
It appears to have something with water getting into the gear ect.
I don't understand what your saying.

BEEF
I am bi far no expert on these but I do have a 1981 stringer that I
converted to full mechanical shift. I have had mine apart a couple of times.

Thank you for your time and help.

I checked the tilt motor connections and they appear ok, the wires have no rips nothing. Since it is kind of hard to reach there, I didnt want to mess with it as I could just leave the lowerunit down since I dock on lake.

The boat is till on water, i will pull it up today. It happened last night so didnt have a chance to take it up. I wasnt at the controls so couldnt tell you accurately about the gauge readings but the temp gaguge was atleast hotter than normal. i usually see it at 160 but yesterday it was at 180 most of the time if not more. But then I have 4 people on the boat including me and I was tubing. The toaal weight of us would be 600lb.

But the engine still starts and runs fine, but when i try to accelarate at first it doent respond much but if i do some more it will roar bigtime like it was at an high rpm.

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

I need to ask you a few questions before i can help you.

1-The boat is on the trailer correct?

2-With the drive down, motor turned off, throttle forward gears engaged, when you turn the prop does the ball gears move?

Did the boat overheat?

Together we will fix the tilt problem latter.

1. Boat is still on dock, I just used my tilt to raise it and check the prop.

2. the prop dosent move. atleast not more than inch. It feel like it is stuck somewhere.

 

[chiefalen]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

I'm going to post a old thread i wrote. Maybe will help you with the tilt.

I must be in shock over my own problem with my boat, cause i really don't understand your problem.

When you pull the boat out post your result with the turning of the prop by hand, motor off etc.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=259807

 

[THE BEEF]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

Thank you for your time and help.

I checked the tilt motor connections and they appear ok, the wires have no rips nothing. Since it is kind of hard to reach there, I didnt want to mess with it as I could just leave the lowerunit down since I dock on lake.

The boat is till on water, i will pull it up today. It happened last night so didnt have a chance to take it up. I wasnt at the controls so couldnt tell you accurately about the gauge readings but the temp gaguge was atleast hotter than normal. i usually see it at 160 but yesterday it was at 180 most of the time if not more. But then I have 4 people on the boat including me and I was tubing. The toaal weight of us would be 600lb.

But the engine still starts and runs fine, but when i try to accelarate at first it doent respond much but if i do some more it will roar bigtime like it was at an high rpm.

I have a 22' Skiff Craft wood boat. It's a heavy one. This year out fishing
I ran it at 3000 rpm 23 knots. The water temp stayed right at 160 degrees
It's been there all summer. ( 5.0 800 stringer)
It still sounds like your water pump shaft is stripped or close to it.
Give me a call if you want I'll PM my number.

BEEF

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

Hello BEEF,

I think you are right on the money. I hit my tilt switch again and the fuse is blown again. I put a new one (I have a ton of them now) and jumped the solenoid, it worked like a charm. So my wiring to the switch may be bad. thats what I've been thinking all along.

On the bigger issue of the out drive. I started the engine with enough outdrive in the water, I still didnt have the prop moving. I think the outdrive itself is engaging as I can feel it by touching. So I touched the prop and it was moving few inches both ways when I pushed it but not any further. Then I pressed it even harder, it moved very very rough like its crushing some gears. The prop was moving freely this morning when I checked it before starting the enginb after leaving it overnight.

So once i felt the prop moving very very hard, i stopped doing anyfurther to my out drive and came to check the gauges. The temparature was going up, up and up. It reached 190 in a matter of few minutes. I still have thesmoke coming out near the black boot at transom. So from what you said so farit might be the water pump shaft.

Could you please guide me further, I have enough tools and a repair manual handy.

Thank you

So

 

[ranger14]

Re: 1986 Rinker - OMC Stern drive - Fuse pops when tilt switch is operated

Hello,

I just pulled the boat out of water and got it home. My intermediate housing gear mechanism is ruined. The ball bearing sthat connects the outdrive and intermediate housing are both grounded completely. I guess that explains the smoke coming from that part.

My prop doesnt move even when the engine is not running. I could hardly make it turn once by applying a lot of force.

I am going to take it the professional mechanic at this point. but the worst part is that guy is not much before. he just does the quick fix everytime and makes me comeback with bigger problems.

I left the boat with him 3 weeks back to fix some strating issues. he pumped some bad gas out and got the boat running. I asked him to fix the tilt but he dint do it. unfortunately I got no choice, he is the only OMC guy around.