1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

You can use a plastic putty scraper to pull gelcoat across small pin holes to fill them, rather then letting the gel 'dry' and using a filler.

Most use a 2.0 tip for gelcoat work, this might help get the gel thru the gun.

Does the Duratec eliminate the need for air inhibition for the gel to cure? I'm familiar w/ it, but not well enough to know.

Unless you use wax, PVA or otherwise cover the gelcoat, it may not cure, and may not be dry tomorrow.

 

[kabookey]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

You can use a plastic putty scraper to pull gelcoat across small pin holes to fill them, rather then letting the gel 'dry' and using a filler.

Most use a 2.0 tip for gelcoat work, this might help get the gel thru the gun.

Does the Duratec eliminate the need for air inhibition for the gel to cure? I'm familiar w/ it, but not well enough to know.

Unless you use wax, PVA or otherwise cover the gelcoat, it may not cure, and may not be dry tomorrow.

The 1.7 tip I used on the original gun was pushing it, but the 1.8 on the new gun seemed to work much better. I think a 2.0 would have been easier to use, but it might have introduced more orange peel. A buddy of mine has 2.0+ nozzles; I will run a few tests and post the results.

The putty scraper is a good idea, I will have to try that on the remainder of the deck. To fill the holes that are there now, I used a small batch of gelcoat, Duratec, and microspheres; once that has cured I will lightly sand the area with 400 grit to remove any residue before I slap on the additional coats.

The Duratec allows the gel to air cure without the use of wax or PVA, but they say you can mist some PVA on for added insurance. When I inspected the initial spray it had cured solid and glossy and took very well to 400 grit.

Thanks for the comments!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

End results are the whole point, so if it worked, and worked well plus turned out good, GREAT!

Hope the gel squeegee trick helps on the deck.

 

[kabookey]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

After letting the gel cure overnight, I went through the entire boat and filled the pinholes and imperfections with a PB mix of gel, duratec, and glass microspheres. I found that using a hard plastic scraper instead of the flexible scrapers forced more of the PB into the pinholes, and made it easier to remove the excess material left over after patching.

Once the patches were dry, I sanded the areas with a 400 grit, wiped down the area with acetone, and readied my next batch of gel for spraying.

Using the same mixture as before (50/50), I gave her a few more coats, around 10-15mil (give or take). I will be adding carpet up the sides of the hull so I didn't spray too high up; that Duratec ain't cheap and I am trying to get away with only using a gallon of the stuff, hah.





After a few hours I was able to lightly sand w/1000 grit to flash off any remaining solvents. My next step will be to give her a final coat of spray to get the coverage somewhere between 20-25mil to allow for some wetsanding, compounding, and buffing.

 

[ShowMeGuy]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

looks like it's turning out great from here.....

 

[kabookey]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"

Right before the final spray, it occurred to me that the deck in its current state was very slippery. The original plan included snap-in carpet, but had to consider there will be times the carpet will have to be removed (fishing, cleaning, etc). Not wanting to glue carpet down, I decided to go with a non-skid texture on the deck and parts of the bow, so no carpet...no problem. From my research I found that many folks were using either the Behr non-skid additive or SharkGrip, so I went and picked up containers of both to compare. Both of the products were very similar, but I gave the nod to the SharkGrip; it had a slightly more aggressive feel and seemed to mix more evenly with the gel.

I decided to skip using the Duratec for this step since I wanted the gel thicker in these areas, so I taped off areas of the bow and deck to give me clean, even lines. Once the areas were taped off, I rolled out the gel/SharkGrip mixture, and sprayed with PVA once the gel started to get tacky.

 

[Stampeder]

Have you got any recent pictures of the final product?

 

[kabookey]

My apologies for the lack of posts, had to deal with a divorce and change of residence, hah. On a good note, I was able to get the Oar finished "enough" to take her out for a water test (more on that later). Currently I would say she is 85% complete, with the remainder of the build to be finished in the winter months.

So, I will do my best to get you all caught up on the progress thus far....

 

[Scott Danforth]

My apologies for the lack of posts, had to deal with a divorce and change of residence, hah........

Hope this wasnt an issue of AIDS (Aquatic Induced Divorce Syndrome - Stolen from Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome)

Boat looks good so far.

 

[kabookey]

This build has certainly taught me a few things, especially regarding the order of which to do certain tasks, and the importance of post-prep. Where I last left off, I had just slapped down a fresh coat of gel and was very happy with the results. Unfortunately, I still had a bunch of things to do, such as build out the stern, paint, etc., so that fresh coat of gel got covered in resin blobs and scratched up pretty badly. Hindsight, that should have been one of the LAST things I did (or at least have covered the deck with cardboard or plastic), but I did not. Needless to say, I will be once again giving the deck a fresh coat of gel. And SharkGrip. Live and learn.

On to the stern...

I believe I had mentioned previously that I wanted to steer away from the stock setup of a doghouse and jump seats, and move in a completely different direction. After some deliberation, I ultimately decided on a setup consisting of a large sundeck, a hinged cover, and a bench that would serve its purpose for seating, a cooler, and extra storage.

On the first restoration, I had gone with the doghouse/jump seat setup, but found it very time consuming to remove, and even more of a pain to put back. This go-around, I needed a solution that was light yet strong, and completely removable with complete access to all sides of the engine.

So, I constructed a frame made from 2x4's that was spanned the width of the boat, and just wide enough so I had access to the front of the engine.



To attach the frame to the boat, I glassed in (not shown in picture since this was for fitting purposes) some 2x4's to the deck, and used 1/2" through bolts to secure the frame to the deck.

 

[BlueNote2]

I have the same boat in Blue. Well, it used to be the same boat. HA!
Nice job on the restoration so far. Glassing and sealing looks nice and neat.
Did you find that all of the foam was water-logged when you got into it? If not, I was wondering which sections in particular?

I like the captains chairs.

 

[LSUTigerFan]

Re: 1987 Sea Ray Seville "Re-Re-Restoration"



hello. i just had to join the forum so I could talk to you .yours is the same year and make as my project , except mine is a cuddy cab. I am still tearing mine down looking for all the rot . not as bad as I first thought . I see you haven't posted in awhile , would like to hear from you. thanks. kc.

Hello kc, I joined this group for the SAME REASON! I will be picking up my 87 cuddy next weekend . Any update on what you have found?

 

[GA_Boater]

So the OP has been gone for 5 years and you guys expect him to come back and talk about your boats? Right!

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