1989 Starcraft FM 160 Restoration

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Long Story Short. Got this boat for free from the original owner. It is a 1989 starcraft FM160 with a 40hp Mercury oil injected outboard. Basically it was used for a small handful of times and it sat for years (like a said...long story)... This is my first boat, but I am handy with motors and carpentry. After much research (and clearing out the Snake infestation - 6 snakes...) , I feel pretty confident about tackling this project. But I sure could use some input and advice if you don't mind. The motor started pretty easily but I shut it down because the water pump was not working...So i guess ill replace the water pump, get the motor going, fix the steering, double check the electrical, replace the deck and paint the deck. Sound like a plan? like I said...any advice is welcome.

So I have a question though.. The bow hatch has battery connection in there. This is for the trolling motor battery correct? (no trolling motor is on the boat.
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I tried to up load pictures, but it said I was not authorized to add or manipulate attachments i assume there is a waiting period?
 

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Welcome Sammy!!! :welcome:

You have to have three posts before you are allowed to post pictures. Options to get around that are to provide a link for a photo bucket/drop box. Once you post pics we will have a better idea what you are looking at.

Always nice to get free stuff, I am hoping you have the title and everything in order so you can register the boat (Assuming you do since its from original owner)
 

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The title is on its way. the original owner got new trailer tags and liscnse plate, and already registered it for me at Texas parks and wildlife. So all the paper work should be in good shape.
 

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Your in Texas? Make sure you have title to the motor as well. You have to have title to boat/trailer/motor for us here in this great state. What part of Texas you in?
 

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Thats awesome! I am in Houston. Post up some pics so we can see what we are working with. :D
 

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So i fixed the steering today. Took about 15 minutes. The cables and everything were fine. I just needed to break it loose and gave it new grease and it works great.

The motor looks like it is in great shape, but time will tell on that. nothing is worse on a motor than just sitting.... Ill post some pictures later. So far the "bought it brand new and let it sit for years" story is checking out nicely.

I ordered a complete water pump with housing for $89. So ill install that this week and then hopefully get the motor cranking and setting it through its paces.

The third picture is of the bow hatch with a battery connection. I assume it is for the Trolling motor.
 

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QUESTION...

In the first picture .. is the the water intakes?

the second picture is of the water muffs. I assume they are placed correctly?

When I run the boat how high should I turn on the water hose? (yeah I know...newbie questions :)
 

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So i fixed the steering today. Took about 15 minutes. The cables and everything were fine. I just needed to break it loose and gave it new grease and it works great.

The motor looks like it is in great shape, but time will tell on that. nothing is worse on a motor than just sitting.... Ill post some pictures later. So far the "bought it brand new and let it sit for years" story is checking out nicely.

I ordered a complete water pump with housing for $89. So ill install that this week and then hopefully get the motor cranking and setting it through its paces.

The third picture is of the bow hatch with a battery connection. I assume it is for the Trolling motor.

That looks like you got a good boat there. A couple things to check before you start putting everything back together. Check your transom for any rot. Take a screw driver and poke it around to see if you have any soft spots. Especially around the top and bolt holes where water could have penetrated and rotted the wood. With how old the boat is, may be worth replacing the transom anyways just to make sure it is done right and you wont have to worry about it ever again if you do it right.

I would take a look at all that pour in foam that you have to see if it saturated with water. Might need to do a couple exploratory holes to see if it has absorbed any and needs to be replaced.

As for your wiring in the front, it does look like a place for a battery and thus a trolling motor; however, if you do get a new trolling motor I would recommend new wiring. Wire is cheap in the grand scheme of things.

QUESTION...

In the first picture .. is the the water intakes?

the second picture is of the water muffs. I assume they are placed correctly?

When I run the boat how high should I turn on the water hose? (yeah I know...newbie questions :)

For your motor, I would suggest getting a maintenance manual (you can get them from here off Iboats, don't forget the forum discount). Then go through it with a fine tooth comb, replace the impeller, clean the carbs, check all of your fuel lines, pull your plugs and inspect, etc... before you try and start it. You should post up on the mercury engine forum.

As for your pics, yes that is the water intake and the yes the muffs are on correctly. Turn your hose on as high as it goes (assuming you have standard water pressure)
 

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SHSU... Thanks for the advise I will look into all that you suggested. I have decided to do a few things differently. I talked to a respected marine mechanic and based on the quote he gave and the fact that I paid $0 dollars for the boat I am going to have him go through the motor and what-not. I would have a better piece of mind. After exploring boat motors and giving it a look, it would take too much trial and error or headache.

However, the deck, foam, wiring, etc... I will do. What I want to do on the deck is replace all the wood and paint it. No carpet for me. So the plan is to use stainless steel screws, and use some type of nonskid paint or bed liner (suggestions?), I have read that I need to paint both sides of the wood, so i'll do that. I also plan on caulking of sealing all the seems and crack before painting.

There is some wasted space in the design i think so I'll do a little bit of change to the original plan, but essentially it will be the same. Its set up for fishing already and thats what we like to do.

Any suggestion on deck replacement would be welcome.
 

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SHSU... Thanks for the advise I will look into all that you suggested. I have decided to do a few things differently. I talked to a respected marine mechanic and based on the quote he gave and the fact that I paid $0 dollars for the boat I am going to have him go through the motor and what-not. I would have a better piece of mind. After exploring boat motors and giving it a look, it would take too much trial and error or headache.

I tore my 1974 Evinrude (1977 power head installed) down to the casing and cleaned everything myself; however, that is an old two stroke vs your newer four stroke. If you can and have the time, ask the mechanic if you can watch and learn from him while he works on your motor. That way if you break down on the water you have a better idea what you are looking at and how things are supposed to work. Plus, once you see him do it you may feel comfortable replacing some of the items yourself when the time comes. Also, ask him about his thoughts on bypassing the oil injection and premixing your fuel. Do a quick search on the forum or google and you will see people that talk about doing it. There are pros and cons to it, but in a nut shell if you premix your fuel, you know your motor is getting oil. Where as if the oil injection fails, you have no idea until its to late (or so I have read)

However, the deck, foam, wiring, etc... I will do. What I want to do on the deck is replace all the wood and paint it. No carpet for me. So the plan is to use stainless steel screws, and use some type of nonskid paint or bed liner (suggestions?), I have read that I need to paint both sides of the wood, so i'll do that. I also plan on caulking of sealing all the seems and crack before painting.

There is some wasted space in the design i think so I'll do a little bit of change to the original plan, but essentially it will be the same. Its set up for fishing already and thats what we like to do.

Any suggestion on deck replacement would be welcome.

Foam: Closed cell foam is a must. Most guys use the pink/blue foam from the big box sores. You can use pour in foam, but there are varying opinions on which is better. As pour in closed cell foam isn't entirely closed cell and will absorb water over a long period of time. Do a quick search and you will see people going back and forth on it. You will note Starcraft did put pour in foam so......

Deck: exterior deck plywood is what a lot of guys use here on the forum (CDX). Some use marine grade, but you will find most everyone says why pay the huge difference.

Fasteners: If you are talking about securing your deck to the hull, then you should be looking at blind rivets. Screws will back out with time and don't have as much holding power in this situation. Just make sure you measure your distance for your drill bit and mark it with tape so you don't over drill and go through your hull.

Sealing: it comes down to what do you want to do with it and how much effort and time you want to spend. Some guys use oil based paint/spar varnish and paint all 6 sides with several coats and call it good. Other's decide to go the extra mile and use epoxy or poly resin to seal. Sealing it will give you a leg up on what the factory did before. As for caulking the cracks and seams, no need. Your sealing should take care of it, and if it didn't then the caulk would only be temporary before failure.

Top coat/flooring: Some guys have used bed liner on the top and others have used vinyl (Nautolex Marine Vinyl Flooring). Another option is to use some form of paint and use non skid beads in them to give you same type of grip in it.

Wiring: See below pic on gauge vs amps vs distance (From West Marine). If you are going to be in saltwater, make sure to use marine grade wire. I am rewiring with 14 gauge for most everything except motor and trolling motor.

Wiring Gauge v AMPs.PNG
 

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Oil injection. The oil reservoir in my motor is in the cowl. Mechanic said that these are good because they are gravity fed and usually don't fail. He "Kinda" recommended keeping it. If the reservoir was in the hull somewhere he would automatically disconnect it. But he did say you can't go wrong mixing your own oil, which probably what i'll elect to do.

Paint - I think ill just go with a good Marine non skid paint and paint every thing . Carpet...yuck.

Foam - It is dry and looks okay. Not sure what to say about this....looks like dry pour in foam. There are some styrofoam blocks in various parts of the boat that some rats chewed at a bit, bit nothing major. Guess all that is okay.

Motor- I think it is a good idea to have him give me a tutorial and to see what is what. I think i could do it, but like I said I would rather have a professional go through it and lake test it... Not something I want to screw up.

Deck. I took out the upper deck where the live well is. It was screwed in, I think, like you said Blind rivets are the way to go. they are easy to put in and dont back out. I am debating about replacing the carpet inside the bow hatch. The carpet is in good shape, its glued to aluminum and will never be seen unless you want to. It may be more trouble than its worth. With the deck i just want it sealed and painted so I can hose it down and make clean up easier.

Wiring - I will give the wiring a good going over and see what is happening.

With the overall project i am not looking for a 100% restoration, I just want a well working functional boat. So If it aint broke i don't plan on replacing it. Well I guess that is what everyone wants.

So far i am having fun with this project and looking forward to working on it. I'm just gonna take my time and work slowly. I am learning much about where things are and how they work.

I have been told that i should flush the gas tank....Any suggestions on this?
 

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I would still cut into a piece of foam. It may feel and look dry, but once you cut it open you will find it is holding water.

You check your transom yet?

Either way, sounds like you have a nice little project that is way ahead of many others here on the forum.
 

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I did check the transom and it looked solid, but honestly I did a cursory look. I'll look more carefully tomorrow. I broke off a piece of the foam on the end and it was dry, But Ill cut a piece from the center and see. I have a lot to learn about the boat....Shoot i'll give ya an example...I am not sure how water gets into the live well. There is this valve thing at the top and I assume water gets in through that, but no clue how. (don't laugh;) It will be fun to figure things out. Like i said, i just have lots of things to learn and I am looking forward to it.

Any suggestions on flushing the gas tank?
 

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I did check the transom and it looked solid, but honestly I did a cursory look. I'll look more carefully tomorrow. I broke off a piece of the foam on the end and it was dry, But Ill cut a piece from the center and see. I have a lot to learn about the boat....Shoot i'll give ya an example...I am not sure how water gets into the live well. There is this valve thing at the top and I assume water gets in through that, but no clue how. (don't laugh;) It will be fun to figure things out. Like i said, i just have lots of things to learn and I am looking forward to it.

Any suggestions on flushing the gas tank?

Howdy Sammy,
We all have new things to learn everyday :wink:. My admiral says I have a lot to learn LOL

For the transom, do a couple test holes with a small drill bit (Don't drill all the way through). You can tell if you have clean wood or have water penetration by color. Back fill holes with 5200 or epoxy.

For your foam, you may be able to get away with cutting a slit deep into the foam and then sticking a piece of paper in it to see if it absorbs anything.
Looking at your livewell pic, looks like you have a fill hole, drain hole and then an aerator pump. So you may have a pump in the back by your bilge pump that fills your tank, you shut off once you have it full enough, turn on your aerator pump to oxygenate the water, and looks like you have a pipe to insert into your drain hole to elevate it so it operates as a drain and overflow all in one.


As for your tank, here is a link that I found of some other members discussing how to clean:
http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...out-a-gas-tank
 
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Made comment in wrong thread... :facepalm:

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I Checked the transom carefully. On one side there is some rot, but it is only about an inch from the starboard side. Every other inch is in real good shape.

I am looking at the electrical....I got the bilge pump to turn off and on, and the navigation lights only make the fuel gage light up but the nighttime navigation lights will not work. I traced all the wires down and just cant seem to get them to operate. I have not been able to get the livewell pumps to work either. I have traces all the wires and did periodic voltage checks and there is voltage, but just wont turn on. I am not sure what is going on. Do you think it would be best to rewire all the lights and pumps from scratch?

Also this is very strange. I notice that there was a electric connector under the dash that was unplugged, and (in the close up) another connector unplugged near the throttle control. The color wire it was connected to was purple which made me think it was the navigation lights because there is purple wire connected to the lights. So I jumped them with the green wire and the throttle body started beeping. A continuous buzz.... what is that? Any ideas?
 

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Not sure if this is at all relevant but on Johnson/Evinrude controls anyway purple wire is an ignition switched positive. Not sure if the colors are standardized.
 

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Ok. see that connector hanging there? I can not find the male end to connect it to... Any ideas on what it controls?
{Edit** I think it is the accessory wires for the running light and such... Correct? This is a mercury 40hp.1989 starcraft btw....

ALSO - I need to replace all the live well hoses. They are rubber heater hoses I think (rats chewed them up) Can I use flexible PVC/clear vinyl tubing/ regular pvc or do I need to use the same rubber hose?
Thanks.
 

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