1995 J200 stalls above idle

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

here is how to test regulator..you do not need the things you mentioned.
Testing regulator/rectifiers on the engine
Recommended tools:
Fluke multimeter with DVA adapter (CDI 511-9773-NL) Piercing probes (CDI 511-9770)
Ammeter Adapter (CDI 511-9772)
Battery Load bank
1. Check the purple wire for voltage while the engine is running. You should see the same voltage as the battery.
2. With all wires connected and the engine running at approximately 1500 RPM, check the DVA voltage from each yellow wire to
engine ground. The two readings have to be within 2 volts of each other (i.e. if one is reading 20 volts, the other has to read
between 18 and 22 volts). If the readings are not equal, go to step 3. If they are equal, go to step 2.
3. Check the DVA voltage from the yellow wires to the red wire going to the solenoid. The two readings must be within 2 volts of each
other. If the readings are unequal, replace the rectifier/regulator. If they are equal on this step and step 1, the rectifier (or
rectifier/regulator) and battery charging portion of the stator are OK.
4. If the readings are unequal, mark across the connection between the stator and rectifier on the low side. Turn the engine off and
swap the stator leads. Crank the engine up and retest. The component that has the marked wire with the low reading is bad.
5. At 800-1000 RPM, check output on the gray wire, reading should be at least 8 volts with a DVA meter. A low reading usually
indicates a bad regulator if the system is charging the battery.

download the install sheet from this page for more info
http://www.cdielectronics.com/AppGuide.aspx?Criteria=0584641

 

[23coastal]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

Will check the coils on the stator, but must do so solo and need to be at the motor when it is cranking to read the meter. How do you jump the starter circuit and crank the motor bypassing the remote switch? Its a 1995 J200 V6 looper model 200TXEOC. Thanks..

 

[23coastal]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

On the sensor coils there was 200,000 ohms of resistance between terminal D and A,B,C on both connectors. The factory manual says that resistance should be 360 or 970 ohms depending on the meter used. 200,000 ohms is very high when compared to under 1000 ohms, but the measurement was consistent for both connectors. Strange that all windings have high, but consistent resistance. Resistance from port bank term D to starboard bank term D was 230 ohms which is in spec Think the timer base is shot?

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

not sure what wires you are testing..give the colors..also you need to do a DC voltage test with the dva adapter..auto parts store sells a solenoid jumper with a push button if you got no one to turn the key for you. brown wires from stator should be over 150 V cranking. yellow wires should be within 2 volts of each other at idle. and purple wire should be the same as battery at idle.

 

[23coastal]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

For the starter solenoid jumper to work properly and not damage anything do you know how the push bottom jumper would be connected? Do certain wiring harnesses need to be disconnected or individual pin jumped. It's a 95 J200 V6 looper.

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

Click the thumbnail please.

Do not cross #6 to the small ground terminal #2, or you will burn the wire.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

nice diagram Ezek...that deserves a place in the secret files section

 

[23coastal]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

Hey thanks for the diagram Ezeke. Got the makings of a jump switch from an automotive store. However, I chickened out when I read the cautions of cranking the motor without the power pack in place or grounded. What's the scoop? There are two ground wires connected to a post above the power pack. I think those need to be grounded. What has to be done with all of the other connectors and grounds while the power pack is hanging off of the motor? What must be disconnected on the power pack before cranking and checking for voltage on the charge and sensor coil connectors. I don't want to fry anything.

I did take more resistance measurements this time with an analog meter. Both charge coils measured 900 ohms. The port sensor coils measured 340 ohms from terminal D (white) to A (green), B (violet), and C (Blue). The starboard sensor coil measured 700 (too high?) ohms from D (white) to A (green), B (violet), and C (Blue). Port sensor coil term D (white) to starboard coil term D measured 230 ohms. The shift switch had to be fastened behind both clips. The motor started like a champ and idled down as expected each time it was started. Didn't go out as a solo trip with winds and a rocky inlet is dicey with a questionable motor. Won't know if the above did anything until the next trip.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1995 J200 stalls above idle

just make sure all grounds are grounded...you are still doing OHM test which are not going to get to the bottom of your problem..I gave you the exact test that need to be done..after you do them post results so we can help you.