2 vs 4 stroke, same RPM, same HP, 7lb weight difference?

WIMUSKY

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Amazing how the 4 strokes seem to be getting lighter and closer to 2 stroke weights. I have a 2003 60 Johnson 4 stroke, it weighs in at 359 which is about 7lbs heavier than a 2003 115 Johnson 2 stroke. I will say I love my 4 stroke. If were to ever replace it, it should last forever, I would go with an E-Tec.

Being the weight is a wash between the 2, is there a big price difference? If there is, go for the cheaper one. The E-Tec should outperform the Merc, but not enough to warrant paying higher $ if that's the case. I have no idea what each costs...... E-Tecs perform like a 2 stroke with the efficiency of a 4 stroke...

BTW, if you can change your oil in your car you can maintain a 4 stroke.....
 
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KC8QVO

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NMEA 2000...Most new outboard come with a connection point on the motor. You only need to buy a kit to connect the motor to the network

Including the smaller hp motors? Such as 30-100hp? I found some info on the Merc's but it looks like it applies to the bigger verados etc.
 

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Some time ago I posted fuel economy and performance data for the 75 HP class of outboards on 17 foot aluminum side console style walleye fishing boats. The subject motors were my personal 75 HP Merc carbed two-stroke, a Yammy 70 two stroke, a Yammy 75 4-stroke, and a 75 E-tec. All boats were the same except for the 70 Yammy two-stroke which was the same style boat, just a different brand since that engine was not tested on the same boat. All data for the Yammy and E-tec came from the manufactures web site while mine came from the fuel flow meter on my personal boat. The long and short of this is that all motors at wide open throttle burned the same amount of fuel or were so very close to each other it wasn't worth discussion. However, when looking at fuel economy numbers at ANY throttle setting one must also see how fast the boat is traveling at that throttle setting. If you compare economy at the same rpm across the board the 4-stroke wins every time. Fact is, 4-strokes are generally geared with a higher ratio (lower gear) than a 2-stroke so boat speed is slower at the same rpm. This is gear ratio/prop selection issue is made necessary because four strokes tend to suffer during hole shot. This is also shown by the charts in that the two strokes are on plane at lower rpm than four strokes. The really interesting point of that study showed that the 70 two stroke yammy actually got better fuel economy than the four stroke -- although partially because of the 5 HP difference. As for top speed, the two strokes were all faster by several MPH than the four strokes. The only point where four strokes had a significant advantage was at displacement speed. Once they began to struggle to get on plane the playing field leveled. Again, compare fuel economy at speed, not rpm because the two-stroke will generally be pushing the boat faster at that rpm so distance covered, and hence MPH and GPH will be more comparable.
 

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40% increase in displacement makes this a fair comparison? Mercury provided the engines and who knows if, how, or why they may have biased the outcome. Games being played with HP ratings for sales purposes?? That's been done before with everything from lawnmowers to cars. We don't know what props were used, Other points for discussion are the "expensive oil" bit. Oil changes and filters and disposal of oil is not exactly an inexpensive item not to mention having a marina doing the work. I'm just more than a little suspicious about this particular test.
 
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