76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

bentle

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

Timing could go out at any time but even if that were the case it would at least try to fire, just wouldn't run right. Prob. not a timing issue here. I have had timing way out on mine and it still fired up. I'm still goin with ignition switch. Here's an idea. Turn the key to the on position not start. Then try bridging the solenoid to get it to crank over and check spark at same time. If you still get spark then ignition is fine.
 

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

You have spark. okey. You have fuel to the carbs. okey. Are the plugs wet after cranking? Check that. If not... problem with the reedvalves. If the plugs are wet then the timing is out. You get spark but in the wrong time. There is a lineup curve at the disterbuterpully. Line it up with the flywheel and then check that the TDC mark on the flywheel is pointing at the zeroline at the timingmark (the one you can adjust, bolted on the powerhead above the topcarb). At idle the points should open at this point if the timing is right.
 

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

Yep. Check to make sure that belt is aligned with curve of flywheel. I think ye trees cakes would be fine... Check timing and report back!However, my timing was probably two cogs f when I got the motor and it still ran... :confused:
 
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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

bentle, i briged the solenoid with the key in on position , she cranked and i had spark on number one. So i guess that eleminates ignition...thanks for your help...ill go check timing and reprt back...thanks guys
 

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

keys can break/drive belts jump when hitting the starter ..if you have spark (1/4 in long in air) and fuel then all it can be is the spark at the wrong time ......
 
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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

thats what im working with..i took a picture of the top of the distributor pulley. Can someone explain the timing process..if anyione needs another pic of something else let me knw..thanks
 

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attachment not valid ..so no photo
 

zopperman

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

bud the pics are really small... Can't tell much but it looks like the timing might be the culprit, that is with the flywheel at TDC, correct?
 

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

Timing process. Turn the flywheel so that the curve on the dist.pully lines up with the rimm of the flywheel. Then check that the TDCmark on the flywheel is pointing at the zeromark at the timingplate (the one bolted on the powerhead above the topcarb). If not. Turn the flywheel so the TDCmark is pointing the zeromark. Loose the disterbuter so you can move the distbelt from the pully. Turn pully (without moving/turning the flywheel) so the curve lines up with the flywheelrimm. Tight the disterbuter. Tight the belt so a 008 filergauge deflect the belt about 1/4 in before the gauge starts to bend when pointing the gauge at the middway of the belt.
 
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thanks..I will give it a shot..Ill keep everyone posted..thanks again to everyone..this site is amazing!!
 
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ok guys...im addressing the timing issue but i have no idea about this..heres wut i got so far..on my flywheel i have two red marks one is over the number "10" and the other is 10 teeth over on number "316" those are the only numbers on the flywheel. when number one cylinder in in the top postion, the number "10" mark is on the zero mark on the timing plate. The only marks on my generator pulley are a red dot and this mark "__l__". So does the other number "316" line up with the red dot on my pulley or the "__l__" mark.
 

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

Okey "10 is the zero mark TDC and the "316 is the 36dgr BTDC. Do you have one longer mark at the timingplate and some shorter at left and right of the longer? If you have, each shorter line are 2dgr minus or plus depending on witch side there are. Left are -2dgr then -4dgr and so on counting from 36dgr BTDC. But some pics at the pully please and it may give some help.
 
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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

if my flywheel key sheard off, would the crankshaft still rotate while the flywheel is turned?
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 76 chrysler 85hp will not run!!!!HELP!!!!

WOW! You still have not fixed the problem since August?

OK! If the flywheel key has sheared, the flywheel will still turn when the engine is cranked.

HOWEVER, let's back up a bit. Let's not jump to confusions.

The engine was running well, you shut it down to fish--it did not stop on its own. So first, let's pretend everything is ok but the engine won't fire.

You can crank it so the neutral interlock is good--eliminate that. You get spark on all three plugs --so temporarily eliminate ignition. You get fuel to the carbs, but that does not mean fuel to the cylinders.

SO: remove all three plugs and squirt about a teaspoon of fuel/oil mix into each cylinder. This will flood it. Replace the plugs (hand tight is good enough for now) and crank without choking the engine for about 15 seconds until it clears itself and fires. If it fires, then the problem is fuel related and at or after the carbs. If it does not fire, then it becomes ignition. Now, your Magna power Motorola ignition is designed to spark once each time it is signaled by the points, which by the way should be set to .010 open when on a lobe.

IF you turn the flywheel by hand very slowly with all the plugs out and grounded and the key on, you will be able to see and hear the sparks. If you turn the flywheel slowly enough or pause at the firing point, as each cylinder comes up to fire, you should get only ONE spark. IF you get multiple sparks or a constant spark on each plug (bzzzzzt), the CD box is bad. While you see sparks at each plug, this engine will never start or even try to.

Now, with the plugs out and grounded, and the ignition on, again turn the flywheel by hand slowly. With the control handle in neutral position you should see the top plug fire at about 0 degrees--plus or minus a couple. With the control handle in wide open throttle, you should see spard about 32 degrees before top dead center. If tis is so, the crankshaft key is not sheared and timing is correct.

Now, back to carbs: Take 'em apart and clean them there may be some crud clogging the inlet needles or low speed passages. While you have them off look into the holes in the manifold and check the reeds. There should be ten on each vee block and none should be broken or bent.

Some plugs will fire in open air but under compression will misfire or not fire at all. Put in new plus of a different brand--like NGK BUHW and try to start.

And while you are at it, put a cheap disposable inline filter BETWEEN the fuel pump and carbs.
 
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