A guide for beginners just starting out boating

Greywolf58

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

Great article! I'll be sure to follow closely, now that I am the proud owner of my first boat. It's not a new one but it sure will give me something to learn on.
 

toddr5516

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

i wish i'd known of this site earlier , well this is great news ! I beleive i've already committed every crime you have listed in your article.
bought my 1st. boat in may 2006 and i may have a few items i might like add.
do not flip the winch lever to release before you back up to the water , the boat will slide off the trailer.
do not sit and watch the sun start to set before you head back to you destination , without more than one light . and always let someone on land know where you heading and your approx. time of return.never let your drunk buddy in control of the helm just because he nags you that you never let him drive.if you do not have power tilt and trim do not put the motor down before the boat is floating for it may bend your prop.-trying to make for a short cut in getting started on your outing cost money.ALWAYS carry your cell phone in a waterproof container.ALWAYS carry your cell phone in a waterproof container.a peice of advice is to bring the items that you may need but hopefully you wont need such as tools , cotter pins , sparkplug.do not try to over take a container ship's wake in a 15ft sticksteer boat on your first outing .DO NOT litter or allow things to fly out your boat that you are not prepared to retreive.
thanks for all your advice- i am having flashbacks now and hopefully the rest of the newbies such as myself will take caution because it can be very dangerous but fun. always flush your motor with the muffs after each outing and crank the motor with the muffs before each outing it will ensure you are not just going to the boat ramp just to return unhappy and confused as to why it wont start.
 

Kywoodmann

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

What a first timer needs to know ...

A BOAT IS A HOLE IN THE WATER YOU THROW MONEY INTO.

KY
 

JoeMan

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

I love the advice - the boat is a hole in the water to throw money into, and, bring a big check book. I found this out as well this year...first boat of my own. I've written quite a few checks...handed over a lot of 20 spots...and swiped the credit card too many times. But am I selling the boat? Nope. Just need a bigger bank account for next boating season!

One other detail for that list...

A) If you pull the drain plug out each time you yank the boat from the water to let out the remaining bilge water, be sure to put the plug back in before re-launching. B) If you forget to put the plug back in and you re-launch, don't wait until the water accumulates so much that it comes up through the flooring of your runabout before turning on the bilge pump - unless you don't notice. C) If you launch without the drain plug and accidentally fill your 16 foot aluminum boat with 50-100 gallons of water, turn on the bilge pump and then look into the enclosed storage area at the back of the boat. If your plastic gas tank is not full, it is likely floating by now. D) If your 6 gallon plastic gas tank with 2 gallons of gas in it is floating in the enclosed area, be sure it does not float over next to the battery which you probably still haven't bought an approved covered case for. Splashing gas onto a charged marine battery is bad. If smoke and flames are coming from this area, guess what happened. E) If you ever flood the boat and then burn up your bilge pump running it for 2 hours, or if you run your battery dead, be sure you have a bucket of some kind on board for bailing. F) You'll also need paddles, because now you can't start the motor with a dead battery. G) And did you bring the life jackets? Time to unzip that pretty square bag for the first time and then realize...oops, you have 4 passengers and 3 vests. Tell grampa to get bailing faster. H) Grab the flashlight because it's dark by now, and you need to locate the flare gun.

If you've got experience through at least step B (or beyond), you'll likely only do this ONE time...so don't worry too much. My brother and I each have older restored runabouts...and we've each left the plug out once when launching. No...my gas can wasn't afloat...but you know someone here read this and thinks someone was watching! :^
 

JoshKaptur

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

Any search tips for finding the threads KCook linked to on the old boards above? Even with the advanced search, I'm not having much luck.
 

TriadSteeler

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

Great info.

Here is a more readable cut and paste from the other site.

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<b><u>Trailers/Towing</u></b><br />

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Make sure your boat is SECURELY fastened to the trailer before towing. The winch strop is NOT enough-Chain the bow eye to the winchpost too. Use a padded ratchet strap or tiedowns (specially on a RIB use tiedowns rather than a ratchet strap) to hold the stern down. Contrary to some people's opinions, boats WILL bounce off a trailer. <br />
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Cover your propeller with a fluorescent bag or bucket while towing. This is a legal requirement.<br />
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Make absolutely certain your outboard is tilted and can't drop down while towing.<br />
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There should be about 25kg of weight or 5-10% of your outfit's weight (depending on the weight/setup of your rig)on the tow ball of your car from the trailer. If there's significantly more or less then move the gear in the boat or if that's not enough move the trailer axle-they usually move on U-bolts. If it snakes about at normal motorway speeds at all then it needs adjusting.<br />
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Always check your trailer tyres for cracks and correct pressure,brakes for binding and operation (if braked)and wheel bearings for stiffness/rumbling/notches before towing any distance. None of these last too well when they get dunked in salt water regularly. If it's got grease nipples on it then buy a grease gun and use it regularly. Make sure you hose your trailer down with fresh water after every recovery-brakes included.<br />
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Regularly check the bolts holding your trailer together. The trailer may well be galvanised but bolts still rust and may well give way. Pay special attention to the bolts holding the tow hitch on.You really don't want to kill someone or lose your boat when it decides to cross 6 lanes of motorway before it hits a car head on.<br />

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On unbraked trailers use a safety chain that will stop the tow hitch hitting the ground if it becomes disconnected.<br />
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On braked trailers use the correct wire breakaway cable-this will apply the trailer brakes then snap if the trailer becomes disconnected from the car while moving.<br />
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Check your trailerboard/lights works properly EVERY time you use it. The one time it doesn't you'll get stopped by the police for it.<br />
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Trailers are NOT allowed in the outside lane of the motorway-the guy you saw last week doing it will eventually get points on his licence for it. IT IS ILLEGAL. <br />
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Your speed limit while towing is 60mph on motorways, 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on a single carriageway A-road. Don't forget your braking distance will be around double your braking distance without a trailer.<br />
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<b><u>Slipways/Launching</u></b><br />

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Most slipways have an area in the car park for prepping your boat. DONT prep in the way of anyone launching or on the slipway itself. <br />
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DON'T FORGET THE DRAIN PLUG and CHECK YOUR BATTERY is charged before you launch.<br />
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Whatever method you use for launching, get your boat away from the trailer as fast as possible.One idiot jetskier can ruin your whole day with his wake as your hull smashes against the trailer. <br />
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<b><u>Safety gear onboard</u></b><br />
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EVERYONE on board should have a lifejacket-and be wearing it. They aren't expensive and may well save a life.<br />
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You will need a flarepack. Go to a proper chandlers(not one that specialises in yachting fashions!), tell them what boat you have and what you plan to use it for then ask what they recommend. Make sure your flarepack is within it's expiry date.<br />
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Get the best VHF radio you can afford. Steer clear of handheld VHF sets unless it's the only option you have due to the layout of your boat-but if you DO buy a handheld be aware that their range is somewhat limited. Unless you have a marine radio licence don't transmit on it unless you need to call for help-you might get fined but it's better than being dead.Monitor channel 16 and the local coastguard channel-use channel 16 for EMERGENCIES ONLY. If you've got a licence you'll know the correct procedures anyway but if you haven't that is as much as you need. REMEMBER-when you transmit (button on side of microphone) then you can't recieve at the same time so don't talk over the person who you're calling-he won't be able to hear you at all until he stops transmitting.Mobile phones don't always work on the water-have one as backup but seal it in plastic so it doesn't get wet. If it DOES work it takes a lot longer to speak to the local coastguard via mobile than via VHF. <br />
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GPS is a very useful tool to have onboard-it means that if you're in trouble you can tell the coastguard/lifeboat/helicopter exactly where you are to within a few yards. Handheld sets are fairly cheap but they do use a lot of batteries so make sure you have a spare set.The best bet is a fixed GPS set, but they aren't cheap.They are also very useful for finding fishing marks! <br />
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Get an auxiliary outboard as backup. A good size for an auxiliary engine is up to 4m boat-4hp. After that add 2hp per metre of boat length and round it up to the next available engine size-for example a 7m boat would need a 12hp auxiliary to be adequate. Run it EVERY time you go out and get it serviced with the main engine.<br />
Get one that has its own tank and uses the same fuel/tank fitment as your main engine if possible-or get one with an inbuilt tank that uses the same fuel as your main engine. <br />
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Carry a set of paddles. You'll be surprised how useful they are.<br />
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If you have removable tanks, carry 2. Carry at least 3 times the fuel you need to get to where you're going to fish- work on the rule 1/3 out, 2/3 back and you should always have enough fuel to get home.<br />
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When you buy an anchor, buy the next size up to the one recommended for your boat size if you plan to anchor in anything other than flat calm. Use 2m of chain minimum on it (but preferably the length of your boat or more if fishing in tidal flow/rough water) before the anchor rope-it 'll hold better that way. Use 3 times the depth of water in rope to anchor with.<br />
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Carry a method of bailing out water just in case. A bucket will do, but a bilge pump and a bucket are better.<br />
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<b><u>Outboard Motors</u></b><br />
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Never EVER run an outboard motor without a water supply. You will destroy the water pump in seconds and overheat then trash your motor.If using 'flush muffs' then have the tap turned on full-your engine can pump more water than a tap can supply.<br />
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Flush your outboard with fresh water using flush muffs every time you take your boat out of the water. <br />

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NEVER EVER rev an engine out of water. They can rev up to twice their recommended maximum revs when they have no load and they will destroy themselves in the process.<br />
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Get your engine serviced at least once a year-and make sure that your water pump impeller is changed as part of the service.<br />
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DO NOT USE solely copper based anti-seize grease on anything that will be submerged-it causes galvanic corrosion. Use an anti-seize grease that has a high zinc content as well as copper.<br />
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DO NOT GO OUT if your water telltale isn't showing-this is a small stream of water from your engine that's sole purpose is to tell you that the cooling system is working. Outboards damage very easily when overheated.<br />
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If your outboard is a 2-stroke make sure you use the correct 2-stroke oil at the correct premix or that you have sufficient oil in the tank for engines that mix their own.<br />
Motorcycle 2-stroke oil is NO GOOD FOR OUTBOARDS-your engine will wear out extremely fast if you use it-no matter what it says on the oil bottle, unless it says it's for use in outboards then it ISN'T.<br />

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NEVER EVER use easy-start on a 2stroke.It has the same effect as running it with no oil and will eventually destroy your engine. If it's hard to start then get it serviced and set up properly so it isn't hard to start. IF you think your engine is addicted to easy-start it's not, it's WORN OUT and you shouldn't be using it at sea. Easy start is also highly explosive and toxic.<br />
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Always make sure your battery is charged and that you have an alternative method of starting (emergency rope start etc)<br />
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If your engine doesn't have an emergency stop lanyard, get one, fit it and USE IT.<br />
Attach it to yourself by looping it round a wrist or leg-don't just clip it to itself. If you fall out while under way your boat won't sail off into the sunset without you.<br />
Keep a spare one on board and make sure passengers know where it is so they can restart the engine and come back to pick you up.<br />
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It might sound obvious but NEVER GO NEAR A MOVING PROPELLER unless you have a fetish for being an amputee.Stay <b>WELL AWAY </b> from swimmers for this reason.<br />

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<b><u>Laws while boating</u></b><br />
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If you're not sure of speed limits or local restrictions on fishing/launching etc look on the net-most harbours have local byelaws available online. The fines can be heavy for disobeying them.<br />
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Some harbours insist on seeing proof of insurance before you launch-don't forget it.<br />
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Read the maritime collision regulations and know who's got right of way. Assume that if it's bigger or less manouevreable than you that it has right of way.<br />
Don't forget that powered boats MUST give way to sailing boats that are sailing. They will NOT give way to you.<br />
If practical, stay out of the way of anything coming anyway-it's safest. Just make sure you go in the right direction (it's in the collision regs)<br />
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Learn what the various marker buoys mean. Some mean 'stay well clear' with good reason.<br />
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<b><u>Using your boat</u></b><br />
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ALWAYS check the local,inshore and shipping forecasts before you go out.If the weather looks like it might turn nasty when you're out then it probably will- head in before you get a problem.<br />
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Make sure you have a copy of the local tide times for the day you go out(These are available online). Some slipways are unusable at low water. <br />
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Don't fish or go near divers while they are in the water. You can tell if a boat has divers down as it will be flying the Divers 'A' Flag (below)<br />
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<img src="http://www.floridascubahound.com/alpha_flag_2.gif" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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Treat any inflatable buoy near a dive boat as a diver-it will be attached to one. Stay WELL CLEAR-if you get his line tangled in your propeller it will pull him to the surface and possibly kill him.<br />
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Watch for floating line near buoys-specially lobster/crab pots. Get this round your propeller and you won't be going anywhere.<br />
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When passing chain/wire ferries like the Sandbanks ferry in Poole or the upper Dart ferry it's always advisable to pass behind them as the chain/wire is only just under the water at the front of the ferry. <br />
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<b>DON'T FORGET THAT ONE SMALL FOULUP CAN BE FATAL.<br />
You can't pull over on the hard shoulder if something goes wrong.</b><br />
The people who the RNLI spend days looking for are usually the ones who 'thought it'd be ok-it won't happen to me' and are blase to the dangers. It's not much comfort to the relatives when their bloated corpses finally float to the surface. <br />

<b>DON'T BE ONE OF THEM. It doesn't make it any less fun if you do it properly.</b>
 

Nos4r2

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

bump!
 

MWBROWN

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Great advice by everyone.

BOAT = BREAK OPEN ANOTHER THOUSAND
 

Mike Robinson

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Great postings.

It's great to read articles like this, I always pick up a few pointers. For example, I have never heard of covering your propeller with a bucket or flourescent bag while towing. I assume this is a U.K. requirement?

A couple of points though;

VHF channel 16 is for hailing other vessels in addition to distress calls, (at least in North America) otherwise few would monitor Channel 16 if no one was going to hail them on it.

And I know this is splitting hairs, but in the Collision Regulations, there is no such thing as any vessel having the "right of way". There are only "stand-on" vessels and "give-way" vessels. Basically, "stand-on" vessels are to maintain their course and speed until it is apparent the "give-way" vessel is not taking appropiate action. (See Rules 17 & 18) I can also think of one situation where a sailing vessel is the "give-way" vessel when encountering a power driven vessel. When the sailing vessel is overtaking. (Unlikely I know!)

Mike Robinson
 
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rbbrox

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Good info, I will add a chain to the bow when towing.
 

divertodd

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Thanks for that info! As a beginner I really appreaciate any good information I can get.
 

Nos4r2

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

Great postings.

It's great to read articles like this, I always pick up a few pointers. For example, I have never heard of covering your propeller with a bucket or flourescent bag while towing. I assume this is a U.K. requirement?
Yes, but it's a good idea anyway to protect your prop/LU from road debris and the idiot tailgating you can't say he didn't see it and run into it.
A couple of points though;

VHF channel 16 is for hailing other vessels in addition to distress calls, (at least in North America) otherwise few would monitor Channel 16 if no one was going to hail them on it.
Yes-but there's no way I'm going to tell someone to use it to hail if they haven't got a VHF licence...
And I know this is splitting hairs, but in the Collision Regulations, there is no such thing as any vessel having the "right of way". There are only "stand-on" vessels and "give-way" vessels. Basically, "stand-on" vessels are to maintain their course and speed until it is apparent the "give-way" vessel is not taking appropiate action. (See Rules 17 & 18) I can also think of one situation where a sailing vessel is the "give-way" vessel when encountering a power driven vessel. When the sailing vessel is overtaking. (Unlikely I know!)

Mike Robinson

I know that's the official line but in practice a yachtie will usuallyNOT give way under any circumstances. There's plenty of incidents where yachts have run down anchored powered craft while shouting 'steam gives way to sail'. The idea isn't to impart rules/regs but to give a real world perspective-ie this will happen at some point so best stay away and avoid it altogether rather than getting into a potentially lethal situation with a pig-ignorant idiot. Doesn't make any odds to you whos fault it is if you've drowned...
 

Unarmed

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yes you can throw a boat off a trailer going less than 10 mph, I've done it.
watch for high curbs. they are very bad for loaded trailers, and its a big pain in the *** to lift your boat back onto your trailer because you weren't paying attention.


Beginners may also want to know about the different boat types, and selection. Here are some good threads here at iboats -
Deep V? Aluminium Or Fibreglass The I/O vs. Outboard Thread To Duo or Not to Duo Prop Outboard, inboard/outboard, and the third? First Boat - Jet? I want a RIB! Anything specific to be careful of? Glastron 175 vs Bayliner 175 vs Stingray 180RX New Boat / Horsepower rating question Boat Show Deals

*** OOPS ***
It seems the change in software has made all the links above void. By searching in the titles I can fix this. But it will take some time. So, as they are fixed I will move them down to the listing that follows:

FIXED LINKS ...

Pontoon boats. Looking for a little advice
http://www.iboats.com/bbboard/bbBoar...=1;gtid=404885

How does your boat handle chop?
http://forums.iboats.com/bbBoard.cgi...=1;gtid=260639

Kelly Cook
most of the links in this post dont work properly




I love the advice - the boat is a hole in the water to throw money into, and, bring a big check book. I found this out as well this year...first boat of my own. I've written quite a few checks...handed over a lot of 20 spots...and swiped the credit card too many times. But am I selling the boat? Nope. Just need a bigger bank account for next boating season!

One other detail for that list...

A) If you pull the drain plug out each time you yank the boat from the water to let out the remaining bilge water, be sure to put the plug back in before re-launching. B) If you forget to put the plug back in and you re-launch, don't wait until the water accumulates so much that it comes up through the flooring of your runabout before turning on the bilge pump - unless you don't notice. C) If you launch without the drain plug and accidentally fill your 16 foot aluminum boat with 50-100 gallons of water, turn on the bilge pump and then look into the enclosed storage area at the back of the boat. If your plastic gas tank is not full, it is likely floating by now. D) If your 6 gallon plastic gas tank with 2 gallons of gas in it is floating in the enclosed area, be sure it does not float over next to the battery which you probably still haven't bought an approved covered case for. Splashing gas onto a charged marine battery is bad. If smoke and flames are coming from this area, guess what happened. E) If you ever flood the boat and then burn up your bilge pump running it for 2 hours, or if you run your battery dead, be sure you have a bucket of some kind on board for bailing. F) You'll also need paddles, because now you can't start the motor with a dead battery. G) And did you bring the life jackets? Time to unzip that pretty square bag for the first time and then realize...oops, you have 4 passengers and 3 vests. Tell grampa to get bailing faster. H) Grab the flashlight because it's dark by now, and you need to locate the flare gun.

If you've got experience through at least step B (or beyond), you'll likely only do this ONE time...so don't worry too much. My brother and I each have older restored runabouts...and we've each left the plug out once when launching. No...my gas can wasn't afloat...but you know someone here read this and thinks someone was watching! :^

no joke, if ya get past step b you'll likely one do it once... I know that from experience :p
 

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its no fun bringing a decent sized boat, being towed by a small tri-hull 25hp boat, with the plug installed wrong.

thats how my father got his last project boat. free boat not running, but we had to get it to a boat ramp from someones personal dock...
 

Mike Robinson

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I know that's the official line but in practice a yachtie will usuallyNOT give way under any circumstances. There's plenty of incidents where yachts have run down anchored powered craft while shouting 'steam gives way to sail'. The idea isn't to impart rules/regs but to give a real world perspective-ie this will happen at some point so best stay away and avoid it altogether rather than getting into a potentially lethal situation with a pig-ignorant idiot. Doesn't make any odds to you whos fault it is if you've drowned...

I feel it is important for vessel operators to understand what the "International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea" contain so that they will understand what is expected of them in a potental collision situation. That is why I tried to point out that no vessel operator has the "right of way" under these rules and that they have an obligation to avoid a collision even when they are the "stand on vessel". (A point you seem to making also.) These rules have been developed from analyzing marine incidents, in the "real world" but I admit not normally from incidents involving "yachties".

Take your example of a sail vessel colliding with a anchored vessel.

Rule 17 b states "When, from any cause, the vessel required to keep her course and speed finds herself so close that collision cannot be avoided by the action or the give-way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best aid to avoid collision."

If the sailor had followed the rules he/she first would not have assumed they have the "right of way" and second would have taken avoidance action when he/she realized that the other vessel, could not or would not, avoid a collision.

It would be interesting to know if the anchored vessel was displaying the proper lights and/or shapes and whether there was a lookout being maintained.
 

Nos4r2

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You're right Mike- People should know the colregs. Unfortunately too many people don't actually bother to know them well enough and the majority of them that actually cause problems seem to be yachties with an immortality complex.

After posting my last I got run down at anchor by a yachtie (who was under power) myself. He wasn't insured either and he tried to say it was my fault that he'd run into me despite being verbally informed (loudly from 10 feet away and with many swearwords over a 15 minute period while I fended him off us on at least 3 occasions) that I was at anchor. It took him 4 attempts to run into us-all while blocking our way out with his antics.

Apparently it was 'my fault' because I was anchored in amongst a closely packed group of over 200 boats that were all anchored in a wide channel (even though I was anchored on the edge of the channel)without showing an anchor ball or white light on an 18' boat in daylight. (see rule 30e). No other vessel was showing lights or balls either.





The boat at anchor I was referring to in the previous post was actually the committee boat for the yacht club that the yacht skipper was a member of and was showing the black ball while beign used to start a race...

There's too many idiots out there...
 

freddyray21

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Re: A guide for beginners just starting out boating

the only thing I would add is check local listings. Not all local laws are as stated in the thread.
 

Debbie R

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:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:Ok so I have got that part down, but I am new to doing all of this on my own, I know how to drive and start it once the initial start has been done, but how do you set up for starting. I think I just squeeze that thing, spray the carberator with starter fluid, but isn't there some valve ting on the gas tank that I have to open? Do you now where there is an actual how to guide for us girls that are not used to doing this on there own. Me and my son love to boat but I want to make sure I know how before I launch. We have been inspected in the past and are 100% on our safty stuff.
 

freddyray21

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I am assuming since you talked about squeezing the thingy you have an outboard. Outboards will differ, but in general yes squeeze the primer bulb until it is somewhat firm. Choke the motor if it is cold. (motors are different in the way you choke them. most have electrical chokes if they are anywhere near a newer model) turn the key to start as on a car. When it fires turn the choke off. If it has died it should start again without choking it. Most have a high idle warm up lever you can use until the motor is warmed up. It's hard to describe not knowing your exact motor and setup. Post your own thread in the motor section that matches your's. ie Evinrude, ect.
 
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