A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

mommicked

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I and my wife have owned 5 cats over the years and enjoyed their company along w the hassles of indoor cats, I am not a cat hater. However I am upset at the news that a cat loving group has sued our Co. animal control agency to have them allow the group to trap feral cats, sterilize and inoculate the healthy ones and re-release them back to their wild roaming existance. They sued to obtain some cats that animal control had trapped before they could trap them. It is currently illegal to release non native animals, It's called abandonment. This is claimed to be a solution to the feral cat problem that is accross our state and probably the nation. I find no logic as to how this will solve the feral cat problems at all. I guess the nuts that care so much for these poor cats have no compassion for the countless songbirds, rabbits, squirrels, ( most often babys) and other native animals that feral cats kill to survive; only the nasty wild cats? They also threaten domestic cats allowed to roam outside their owners homes. The president of the group trying to make a case for their desire to release trapped cats was quoted saying "killing the cats doesn't work, It never has" I fail too see how this could be possible. A cat that is not roaming wild canot cause problems. I just don't get it? I think the concerned group should take these cats into their own homes if they want to save them all from being put down, evedently they want feral cats to become a new native species? Can anyone explain this logic, I'm baffled.
 

1973Chieftain

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

That certainly doesn't make much sense! I live out in the middle of now where so a .22 shot doesn't attract attention, but I've not had a problem with abandoned cats... a pellet gun sounds like a good solution to me!
 

mommicked

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

This "group" has deep pockets and lawyers who are trying to change the current rules to allow them to "rescue" feral cats and release them after they are spayed or neutered, because some are too aggressive to adopt out. I guess the logic is eventually there will be no more feral cats because they will catch and sterileize ALL of them so they cannot breed anymore. Now if they could stop all the idiots from dumping boxes of kittens on the side of the road, at malls, in neighborhoods or out in the country (I have seen all of this many times) they might be on to something. They are currently concentrateing on poor neighborhoods nowhere near rural areas w their local effort now. I'm guessing it's to much work to trap the rural feral cats. I had a cat trap in my yard and it disappeared one day. I suspect a peta type neighbor (feeding/attracting stray cats) had something to do w it as she's retired and I and my wife work during the day. I wanted to ask her about it but I will just get another trap and lock it up this time.
 

JB

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

No coyotes in Piedmont yet? We have no feral cats over a few weeks old here. What the coyotes don't eat the bobcats do.
 

mommicked

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

We have Coyotes in every county JB, I saw my first one here about 16 yrs ago. The feral cats outnumber them by a wide margin and that # grows daily because of people owning cats that don't have the sense to own any pet. I recall stopping at a gas station in town one day and finding a box of kittens in the parking lot. I informed the manager who replied w a groan " that's the 4th time in 2 months". Undoubtedly the same cat nut was leaving them there and probably had dozens roaming around their house/property. Animal control does not have the money or staff to catch all the cats that folks call them to trap and will admit that if you ask why they cannot help in every situation. Some candidly recommend that folks in more rural areas, outside town limits, take matters into there own hands so to speak, and will also loan traps if you want to go that route. They are working hard w the funds and staff they have, but it's an epidemic in some areas. This fact makes me very angery that anyone would suggest releasing feral cats that have been trapped once, they aren't stupid and would be harder or impossible to trap the next time.
 

NYBo

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

I imagine the rationale for returning them to the wild is twofold:
1. They occupy that area, reducing the likelihood that other, non-neutered, cats will come around.
2. No blood on their hands because they didn't euthanize the animals.

I suppose #1 makes some sense, but #2 not so much unless they plan to feed the cats and protect them from predators.
 

foodfisher

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

Honestly can't tell the difference between cat or chicken wrapped up in a tortilla with tapatio hot sauce.
 

woodsyfeller

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

Maybe its time to reintroduce birds of prey in that area. I'll bet at one time bald eagles and hawks were native preditors there.
 

jigngrub

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

I guess the nuts that care so much for these poor cats have no compassion for the countless songbirds, rabbits, squirrels, ( most often babys) and other native animals that feral cats kill to survive;.

If you'll stop to think about it you may realize how many rats and mice wild cats kill, if it weren't for cats (both wild and domestic) there would be a huge explosion in the rodent population... and I absolutely hate rats and mice!!!

I have 3 cats that have cleaned out the rat and mouse population around my house and now they're working on the Voles.

My next door neighbor just sold his house and moved out and I was talking to the new owner the other day, he told me he couldn't believe all the rodent droppings that were in that house when he moved in. These aren't old houses, it's a new subdivision and none of the houses are over 10 yrs. old. My old neighbor didn't like cats... but I guess he loved rats and mice YECH!!!.

All cats are ok in my book... rats and mice are not!!!
 

JB

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

I like cats well enough. My current cat, Miss Kitty, is 21 years old and wouldn't last a day outdoors. Coyotes, bobcats, raptors and snakes do a pretty good job on neighborhood varmints. The occasional feral cat rarely lasts more than a week.

Now, my #1 daughter is known as the cat lady in her community. She has, at any time, from 10 to 20 cats. All are spayed or castrated as soon as she picks them up in some feral environment, like city parks. Except for a few favorites they are outdoor cats. They stay home where Sam, the golden retriever, protects them like they were his personal pack or flock. Rodents? What's that??
 

veritas honus

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Re: A warm and fuzzy cat utopia

Some people may go too far with their beliefs, imposing them upon others. In this case, it seems to be a double edged sword, so to speak.

I empathize with both sides. Where I live(out in farm country), we have a lot of feral cats. We also have a lot of venemous snakes which these feral cats kill. We have a lot of field mice, which grow up to be "field RATS", which the feral cats kill. They look like half rat/half gerbil when adult. I'm not from the south. I live here now and have gotten used to a very different way of life, with different rules and different creatures all around. Anyway, back to the subject... The feral cats have their place where I live. The positive far outweighs the negative here(in my eyes). Every locality and individual will have it's/his/her own list of pros and cons.

Natural selection always plays out... Good, bad, or indifferent.
 
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