al-Qaida Has Rebuilt, US Intel Warns.

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I for one, will not step in that pile...The required research would take more time than I have, and the associated "body-counts" have ZILCH to do with each other.
BP, a simpler question for you: What is the purpose of having a military force of any type?
 

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Let's see, JR.

If we assume these reports are correct,

How could you possibly make that assumption? Did you not pay attention to the administration's reaction to this article? If ya go hit the books as I suggested earlier n' study n' learn the history you missed while smokin' at the bridge at ol' NHHS, (or subsequently forgot when ya smoked yer rope over the years), you'll learn that there is always a 'fog of war' driven by the two sides n' their allies. Yer too old to have been taught about homosexuality n' victimhood, as I attended the same school a few years after you, so I know the corncept of history was taught: ya jus' had to attend class n' not sleep durring the lectures n' read the texts n' pass the tests.

Islamo Facism has largely won the propaganda war thanks to the NYT, WP, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, BBC, n' most the worlds very Liberal 'hate America first' MSM. The experts on homosexuality n' victimhood, or the guys that skipped history class n' drink Liberal Kool aid or smoke rope want to take their ball n' go home: cornsequences be darned. After all they have not suffered at all since 9/11 n' the economy is as good as it gets, taxes have been cut, n' they think the world works like a vedeo game.

Democrats are workin' with our enemies n' openly embracing and welcoming defeat n' lookin' forward to the political gains from their good works. The MSM only reports sensitive leaks of our tactics to divide our allies, (Europeans mad about secret detention), or help the Islamists, (monitoring conversations n' financial data), n' bad news, (bombing our soldiers) or innuendo about further bad news, (this has been the case since that piller of cornservitive journalism: Walter Cronkite helped dim wit Americans believe the Viet Cong actually won the Tet offensive instead of the truth: they actually got crushed!

PW2, ya need ta study ponder n' learn from history. I will equip ya to evaluate current events n' the current crop of Leaders or Carpet Baggers in government today.


then after 6 years of virtually complete Republican (presumably conservative) control,

PW2, ya need to stay away from the stash when yer studyin' history n' current events. Ever heard of Jumpin' Jim Jeffords? The Republicans, (many of whom are far from Cornservative), have never had the Corntrol the Liberals had under FDR n' LBJ, or even Jimmy Carter as they have never dominated the propaganda machine, (MSM), or the pointy headed achedemians. The internet n' talk radio n' Fox news only partially offset the huge advantage Democrats n' Liberals enjoy. That is one of the reasons Democrats can blatenly n' cornsistently break the law and soar to rock star status after brazenly breakin' laws.

and our problems seem to get only worse and worse,

Boy those problems are worse then the Great Depression: (record stock prices, low unemployment, treasury revenues at an all time peak after years of massive tax cuts). We busted AQ Kahn's nuclear network, Libya lays down, 3/4 of al qaeda's honchos are in the hands of Allah or glub Gitmo. It's real bad: PW2. We've been at war for over five years and nearly 4000 soldiers have died, (I know the Libs are real bothered that we save so many battelfield causualties as apposed to deaths), as they NEED BAD NEWS TO FOCUS ON AS YOU APPARENTLY LIKE TO DO. One day in WW2 or one week in Vietnam or Korea produced that many deaths. That's why ya need to lay off the smoke n' hit the books to gain some rational perspective, based on real facts not the Kool aid induced by Democrats n' the MSM. It's real bad PW2: I think I'm gonna cry.

we are to deduct from this data that liberals would be bad for this country?

Liberals are necessary and they have as much right to be here as anyone. Their policies of encouraging Victimhood, Defeat, and all the other irrational cornduct they encourage needs to be acknowledged and dealt with in a sober fashon and their ideas ushered into the dust bin of history. It may take a few years, but there wil be a day when the rubber meets the road.

Interesting logic.

Does the rope interfer with yer ability to cornsider facts in a rational manner, or is it the history classes ya missed?

Are you by any chance related to my ex-wife?

Not likely. JR
 

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....OldMercs....you have lots of good points and info. No doubt.

Thank You Bigprairie, I try real hard to keep the ol' brain cell in tune, (it helps to debate Libs here on iboats)!

Now, take a sec....I've got a few questions for you: 1) What was last years U.S murder rate?

I don't know.

2) What was the nationality of most of the perpetrators?

Again: don't know; but would guess American, (lower 48 AK and HI).

3) How many U.S soldiers have perished so far in the Iraq war over the last 5 years?

A little over 3600 precious American soldiers that I am deeply sad about.

Now take all the names/nationalities out of the above answers and peruse the scorecard results.....it's not a perfect scenario so far. Thats why its losing traction.....more people are checking the big scorecard picture.

Please read my reply to PW2 before responding to you here fer some talk about the "BIG SCORECARD PICTURE". One needs some historical perspective to formulate rational positions, not just sip the MSM's very anti n' hate America first Kool aid. Canada is not helpfull with the Iraq war as they are with Afganstan, (and it really is the exact same world wide struggle) so the Liberal "look down yer nose" Kool aid is very effective North of the 49th. Why Liberals think they are sooo good at mind reading that they can ignore the plain words of our enemies, is beyond me. Did Lennin state his objectives, Hitler, Chairman Mao? Why can't people take the Islamo Facists words n' deeds at face value n' act accordingly to protect all of us? Respectfully JR
 

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.......every country has their kooks. Canadians have their conservatives, liberals, green/treehuggers, political abstainers, religious right, military right, left overs, you name it.......the whole gamut.
In that, I for sure am no tree hugger.
With that, you're right....we're not in Iraq...but then neither is Osama. He and the taliban leadership are in Aghanistan (& Pakistan)...which is where we currently are at....with admittedly mixed results. Some good, some bad.
Hey, we want him gone too.
Why have a military is a good question. I believe you need one and should always have/keep one. Its really just a bigger version of the police....and we need that. I see it primarily for defence tho' (at least...say 95-98% of the time). Hitler was all offence....we should have all seen that comin'.
Just like the N.Korean Kim Jung....that guy is mixing up a big bag of trouble. If anyone internationally has to go....it should be that clown.
Now this guy actually has WMD's...and his rockets currently suck...but he's got 'em...and he's a workin' on em. Although he's been a little quiet lately.....hmmm?
 

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And here in lies the entire problem.

"Why have a military is a good question. I believe you need one and should always have/keep one. Its really just a bigger version of the police....and we need that."

Not even close. A fundemental misunderstanding of the role of the military explains so much.
 

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.......every country has their kooks. Canadians have their conservatives, liberals, green/treehuggers, political abstainers, religious right, military right, left overs, you name it.......the whole gamut.
In that, I for sure am no tree hugger.

I'm a bit of a tree hugger, I'm just not real extreme about it, and I'm into personnal responsibility: not nanny government corntrol.

With that, you're right....we're not in Iraq...but then neither is Osama. He and the taliban leadership are in Aghanistan (& Pakistan)...which is where we currently are at....with admittedly mixed results. Some good, some bad.
Hey, we want him gone too.

Hmmmmmm, if OBL and every living thing vanished from Afganistan 9/12/2001 nothing would be any different other then Liberals' irrational talking points. This is a 1500 year old world wide cornflict that broke into the open in 1979 and got the world's attention 9/11/2001, (Liberals paid attention fer five minutes before dreaming up ways to help the enemy n' gain political power), and the Islamists kill freely as much as possible to feed the MSM with copy in most places in the world.

Afganistan is one of the most worthless places on earth, and not important at all, other then denying sanctuary to Islamists. The Muslims have used the exact same tactics since Mohamed's time. The only difference is many years of oil revenues, n' the internet n' the advance of weapons technology.

If yer rational, (most Liberals, [I'm not calling you Liberal as I can't read yer mind], are not), n' ya pondered the geopolitical situation of Iraq, you would note: VERY LARGE OIL RESERVES, educated population, (n' prior to Sadam's departure): weak military, central Middle East location. Our enemies openly state how important to their cause defeating the Coaltition in Iraq is, (Libs just look down their noses n' preach how "Bush lied people died" n' do what they can to help our enemies win fer political gain). If we could ALL work together n' stand up a functional republic friendy to the West, it would be wonderfull for the world, n' may help good Muslims reform their nasty Religion. If we surrender the country to Islamists this cornflict will get very bad for the rest of the world, (Western cities will fall or be severly damaged), and we eventually will get real (non PC) nasty similar to WW2, IM not so HO, n' send many Muslims to Allah fer him to sort out.


Why have a military is a good question. I believe you need one and should always have/keep one. Its really just a bigger version of the police....and we need that. I see it primarily for defence tho' (at least...say 95-98% of the time). Hitler was all offence....we should have all seen that comin'.

Once war breaks out, offence works much better then defence. The USA has not been hit since 9/11, and that only an accident if yer a irrational Liberal. We have and are killin' lots of bad guys in Bagdad and the surrounding areas, n' that is better then dealin' with them here in Seattle. That said: Muslims frequently are snippers, use SUVs n' such to kill as many as possible here in the States, the MSM just doesn't want that widely known so they never report it. They want to hurt us n' report only bad news for our side not help us be aware of what is actually happening.


Just like the N.Korean Kim Jung....that guy is mixing up a big bag of trouble.

That highlites the hate America first Democratic party voting to restrict n' limit missile defence as much as possible. North Korea is China, n' Japan n' South Korea's problem much more then ours. If we have a sound missile defence we can deal with them from a distance or the sea. That brings up the ol' question again. Is Liberalsm a mental disorder?

If anyone internationally has to go....it should be that clown.

The Libs would impeach President Bush in a NY second. Iran is a far bigger problem. Until we defeat the domestic Democrats who badly want defeat we could not sucessfully defeat Luxemburg in a WAR, so wishfull thinking about North Korea is just foolish.

Now this guy actually has WMD's...and his rockets currently suck...but he's got 'em...and he's a workin' on em. Although he's been a little quiet lately.....hmmm?

There will always be problems for the Liberals to get us into so they can work with our enemies and profit from the defeat. They really luv illogical wars where there is very limited actual American interest, (like the Balkins n' Somolia et al). Respectfully JR
 

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Re: al-Qaida Has Rebuilt, US Intel Warns.

And here in lies the entire problem.

"Why have a military is a good question. I believe you need one and should always have/keep one. Its really just a bigger version of the police....and we need that."

Not even close. A fundemental misunderstanding of the role of the military explains so much.
And I knew it. Hence, the question. It really gets to the meat of their philosphic make-up. Doesn't it? They lack that fundemental understanding of what a miulitary is, and what it should/should never be used for.
Giving the reins of the American military to liberals is like giving yer boat keys to a five year-old.
 

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Quote OldMercsrule

That brings up the ol' question again. Is Liberalsm a mental disorder?


Damn Omar you keep leading with your jaw don?t you?:D


<< A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".>>

<< As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report's four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same affliction.>>


http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1017546,00.html
 

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Tree, the pointy headed achedemians n' their mouth piece: the MSM always tries to portray Cornservatives as stupid, (Ronald Reagans' letters shot that one all to he11), mean, (how mean is it to force poor intercity kids to learn about all aspects of homosexuality n' victimhood as Liberal Democrats do force the monopoly to get their teachers' union support), as apposed to voutchers compasionate Cornservatives favor where the partents can choose to have their kids actually learn the three r's n' become productive parties in society? They luv to phychoanalyze from their ivory towers n' label Cornservatives crazy n' just like Hitler et al. That's not new Mr. Tree.

I can use me eyes n' ears n' single brain cell to come up with me own cornclusions. Thank you very much. Liberals want to corntrol all important aspects of life, n' they try to do it with limiting education options, media options, (their fair doctrine), n' massive taxation, n' regulations dumbed down to the dumbest vistims' level to exert maximum corntrol on all of us. They want us to depend on their BIG GOVERNMENT ***. They have a lot in common with Hitler, Stalin, n' Mao, who also like BIG GOVERNMENT to corntrol all things. Most Cornservatives value individual choice, n' let the individuals live with the choices they make.

The modern Libs now have learned to turn defeat n' anti American polocies into political power. That is why a simple guy like ol' Murky tends ta ponder that naging ol' question: Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

Sorry pigs don't fly today on iboats!! Gotta go have some fun now, (as it stopped rainin' fer a few minutes), see ya in a few. JR
 
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