America's Wasteland II

JGREGORY

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Right on Ladyfish, I could not have said it better myself. :)
 

plywoody

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Ok, I'll jump in.<br />I am against publically funded "private" schools. Period. Gays should be respected and treated with the rights of anyone else in the normal environment. If some wacko wants to attack them for whatever reason, there are laws against that. Prosecute them.<br /><br />I am not against new educational initiatives, but if it is limited to only gays and lesbians, I am against it.<br /><br />That being said, I have nothing whatever against gays in any way. I recall years ago, before being gay was popular, my mother was renting a house to a couple of guys that turned out to be gay. The neighbors all came to my mother to see what she was going to do about it. She asked me what to do.<br /><br />I asked her if they paid the rent on time--Yep, on the very day it is due every time, she said.<br />Do they keep the place up? Yep, it is spotless. Then take their rent check, put it in the bank, if they invite you to a sex orgy, politely turn them down, but tell the neighbors to mind their own business.
 

lakeman1999

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Talking about qu**rs and apartments, I remember an incident that happened about 40 years ago, in a land far, far away (indiana). On a friday, or saturday night, you would usually find myself along with most local young bucks hopping from one to the other redneck bars (with the country music band, and a small dance floor). Usually by closing time, there would have been many invites to different all night after hours parties. Well these two degenerates had just aquired, decorated and furnished a new apartment, and decide to have a party. Well it seemed every red blooded american redneck, and a few other individuals (including myself) had recieved an invitation, as I guess they did not know, that these after hour parties, everyone you invited, was going to invite everyone they had a drink with, and there may be hundreds show up, from a few invites.<br />Well, there was rednecks showed, from wall to wall, and I mean the place was crowded, and a little beer was getting slopped around, and a couple items maybe had gotten knocked over, and maybe damaged. Well here these two "PANSEYS" were. running here and there, "OH DON'T TOUCH THAT", and "O'HHH!! PUU-LEEEZE" don't touch that, and after awhile a few rednecks had started to get ornery (started???). Well, the pansies really had some nice, and expensive clothes, and furnihings, and some one discovered a bag of marshmellos in the pantry, and said lets have a marshmellow roast. Well, it was a sight to behold, like a line of ants, every thing in the house was stacked in the back yard, I mean everything the place was barren, and the biggest bon-fire you ever seen happened. I personally, was only an observer, not a participant, but like I say, if you ain't got all your nuts teightened up right, don't flount it, it is no ones business what you do in privacy, but take my advise and keep it private. :D :D
 

Ralph 123

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The issue is not fair and equal treatment of gays. The problem is that gays now want special rights. They want to be treated differently than the rest of us. The want special anti-discrimination laws, special schools, special recognition.<br /><br />The problem is, all this pushing their agenda and lifestyle in our faces is having a big negative backlash and they are going to wind up worse off than they were.<br /><br />My personal belief is that most people are unfortunately born gay. Their brains are wired wrong and they are attracted to the wrong sex. They can no more control those urges than I can control mine for women. And frankly, I really don't care until you start pushing it in may face and asking for special treatment.<br /><br />Ok quick story all true:<br /><br />My best friend growing up lived next door. We were like brothers. K was always feminine. Gorowing up we chased the girls together - he always seemed to be able to get close to them and becime a real friend and set them up for me :D <br /><br />I had MANY fights over K - I am a big guy and good with my hands. People would give K a hard time and call him a fag and then they would get a right hook from me for harrassing my brother - after all he wasn't gay just a little fem...right?<br /><br />K and I went to high school together too. So I hung with him everyday. Then we started drifiting apart when I went to college. When I graduate undergrad I got married to a girl K and I hung with since we were kids. K & her were really good friends.<br /><br />After I got married, I hardly saw or heard from K until one day when he calls me just after I got married to tell me he was gay. I didn't knwo what to say but I couldn't help thinking I always suspected to it wasn't a great shock.<br /><br />I guess the point is, here is a guy born gay. He trued to be straight. Act straight. Date girls. But he was gay. He couldn't control it any more than I could control being straight.<br /><br />Do I want people to bother K, my little brother? No. But if he puts lip stick on and marches down the street asking to be treated like he was special then I would kick his a$$ down the street myself.
 

Carphunter

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I am all for a "special" school for the gays and lesbians,.................How about on "Gilligans Island"<br /><br />Look at the way the human body is made, Men are supposed to mate with Women,........ and it ain't natural if you want to "mate" with the same sex, I don't care what ANYBODY says. Our children should not be taught that this is normal........PERIOD. <br />You gotta blame people like Rosie o'Donnell, who have corrupted society because they are in the limelight. Because she is "famous", everything she says gets quoted and re-quoted. :mad: <br />Because this is a family site, I will refrain from saying what should be done with her.<br /><br />Startin to feel some oppression here fellas, (and gals), .....and I don't like it. :mad:
 

Ralph 123

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Hey I went to Gilligan's Island. It's called Salt Cay in the Bahamas. Awesome little island. The lagoon is just as great as it looks on TV. I'd hate to see it ruined by being filled with homosexuals :eek: :D
 

ebbtide176

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i understand what you said RS. i think you hit on something there(1st post). its sad but true.<br /><br />i'm not educated in psychology. but i can remember that most people were born to be only interested in themselves, when babies, then toddlers. and then started loving mom & dad. then siblings. and then only liked same sex, hated opposite sex. this was before the times of needing & understanding the opposite sex. like pre-teens. <br /><br />i've known several homosexuals, and tried to understand them. the only hang up seems to be that they never got over that fear of learning to desire the opposite sex, like they got stuck in the 10yr old frame of mind... i realize its difficult, but jeez, its the path laid before us - we can only procreate with the opposite sex, that is the mold by which we're made, no denying it. sorry, but the attempt to go around it will fail. you cannot be a couple. you might be a pair, but that's not my business...just don't try to make me accept it as a normal way of life.<br /><br />just my thoughts ;)
 

Ralph 123

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ebb - was just my observation based on someone close. If anybody was ever born that way he was. People kne it since we were like 7 or 8. I was in more denial than him as I always got into fights over it. <br /><br />But as you said, the core issue is, don't push it in our faces and try to make us accept it as a normal way of life. Don't ask us for special treatment. I think K knew I felt that way and hence the break in any contact. Either that or he feels quilty about all the fights I got into over it :D <br /><br />We grew up in an inner city neighborhood of Boston with lots of tough Irish and Italian kids. So trust me, there were a lot of people I had to fight for harrassing him!
 

ebbtide176

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10-4 on that RS. <br /><br />i remember personalities pretty well, and i took up for those kinds too. there were sissies & there were mama's boys. i had an old boss who i had to take a 3hr round trip system installation with, and he was a self proclaimed genius, who enlightened me on the very intimate details on how one can be born that way, with himself as a subject. :cool: <br /><br />i still feel that somehow it is only just a matter of emotion, enviroment, and addiction that can/should have been rectified long ago. also, of voyeurism, and compatibility that has gone awry. i mean, if i were italian, and was expected to kiss a man on the cheek, then i could do it, because i love most of my relatives that much- but thank goodness thats not my situation, because i dam sure don't want to, because it just aint natural. lol<br /><br />i guess the best people to research on homophobia would be in the max prisons, they should have a good idea of both sides of the 'soap' box :D <br /><br />just throwing out considerations here...
 

Ralph 123

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That must have been one awful ride! That's what I mean about throwing it in your face. I mean come on why in the world did he feel the need to share that! :rolleyes:
 

KennyKenCan

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Lakeman,<br /><br />Couldn't agree more.<br /><br />But now they want to make pickin-up a partner at your local rest-area legal.<br /><br />There is legislation before the state of NY to allow this behavior!<br /><br />These people are trespassing on state property at all hours of the day and night , which makes it pretty scary to make a pit stop at 3 AM!<br /><br />They should just go to one of their gay bars and pick someone up!<br /><br />Kenny
 

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Can anyone say a new reality show in the works? :eek: <br /><br />NBC-"You want to be my partner"<br /><br />CBS-"Will you be my partner"<br /><br />ABC-"I want you as a partner!"<br /><br />FOX-"Geraldo and his partners"
 

Ralph 123

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Kenny are you joking or what? That's insane!<br /><br />Even here in good ol mass all the pickle parks are shut down at night and heavily patrolled by the State Police.<br /><br />What the heck are they putting in the NY water lately?<br /><br />Has Hillary been spiking the resiviors or something????
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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No sir Ralph, he ain't kidding and it's been that way for years.<br /><br />NY ain't the only place like that neither.<br /><br />About any rest areas along the major roads are like that.<br /><br />You can't even get out in one to go take a leak without some "THING" asking if you want a date in the men's room.<br /><br />They might be in the stall next to you trying to get a look or hitting you up.<br /><br />It's scarry anymore. :mad:
 

miloman

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Well I have to say that as much as i feel people hav the right to express them selves if that moved in to my neighborhood I d move as far away as I can makes me think that the world is forgetting about good christian morals
 

lakeman1999

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How many are willing to do anything about it? I am a person with very high morals, but I am not a christian, I am an agnostic, I say no one (or none of todays religions) knows the truth (as they cannot all be right). So my rejection of these sicko degenerates agenda is not religion, but just common sense, and the nonconfrmity to the laws of nature. But how many of you members of the christian faith (my wife whom I love and respect included) have just by keeping quiet in your churches, advanced and helped the cause of them advancing their agenda?? Recently when one of the smaller of the Baptist denominations tried to start a national boycot of everything disney, how many of you joined in and supported them?? They were made out to be fools, and radicals, and highly criticised by theliberals and their media, and the vast majority of their fellow christians in the country ignored their cause, and continued to take their kids to disneyland, to purchase disney products, to go to disney movies, and to watch ABC telivisionon (owned by disney). This came up when disney became one of the main businesses promoting qu**rs, by being the biggest, and most well known company to give Qu**r partners recognition as a family, and giving them all employee benefits that a "normal" famiy member employees get. They also at their disneyland designated tuesday as qu**r day (although they had another name for it). So if you took your children there on tuesdays, they for sure would be subjected to deviate behavior among other adults present which would be setting one helluva'n example for your and other children. Well, these good thinking baptist were let down by their fellow christians, and their attempt accomplished nothing, except gave the liberals, and their media more amunition against the, (in their mind) radical right wing christian movement. The way disney corporation is run today would be a terrible dissapointment to it's founder, if he was still alive, as it used to "ONLY" produce "FAMILY" movies (not any more), and used to be a vey family oriented company (not any more). I for one, did and still do support these folks boycot of anything disney. I have not been, and would not go to disney land, I will purchase nothing with disney on it, and ABC is not tuned in on the TV sets in my home. The biggest problem this country faces today, is that even good people, with good morals are weak when it comes to what their children, grand children, and they themselves want in the way of fun, recreation, and to pursue their own "GAY" lifestyle. As I quoted from the dictionary in a previous post in this thread, the true meaning of the word gay, and why I refuse to recognize the word since the meaning of it has been changed by the sick ones among us, their liberal friends, and the media.<br /><br />"gay (ga) adj. 1 joyous and lively; merry; happy; lighthearted; 2 bright; brilliant (bright colors); 3 given to social life and pleasures (a gay life)" <br /><br />I for one am not prjudiced against any one of these sick people if they keep it behind the privacy of their own bedroom door, and do not try to infect myself, and unprotected, innocent children that may be exposed to them. How many of these sick adults today, would be normal, if they would not have had a traumatic experience with a sick adult (father, uncle, stepfather, teacher, priest, neighbor, or other adult degenerate sicko) in their childhood. These persons that claim to be living a sane normal life style are drawn to places, and occupations where they can be exposed to innocent children whom they can easily manipulate, and desecrate without being exposed. They want to be teachers, scout leaders, nurses, camp counselers, phsaciatryst priest, and even child activity directors in your local christian church. Hey, friends, one of my favorite sayings, and I do not recall the originator, " :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

lakeman1999

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To Admin will you please give a full explanation of all that triggers this?<br /><br />Sorry, we can not process your request. The board administrator has enabled flood protection for this function. You must wait at least 61 seconds before trying this request again. <br /><br />I have tried to be very carefull how I worded the post, and it was deleated before being posted. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

lakeman1999

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Okay, sorry admin I see it got posted before it was completed, I was in the process of completing the above post when the flood message apeared.<br /><br />The favorite saying (that I do not recall the originator), I was attempting to complete the post is "WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY, AND THEY ARE US" :D :D
 
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