Anodes

dingbat

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I would question the wisdom of this advice. The problem with zinc in a freshwater environment (when the boat is on a trailer the rain and humidity are freshwater) is passivation. Maybe if the boat is stored close enough to salt air it wouldn’t matter?

https://www.boatzincs.com/use_milspec_a18001k.html

The current U.S. Military Specification, A-18001K, is the result of extensive studies and experimentation carried out by corrosion scientists for more than forty years. Prior to the mid 1950s, corrosion prevention for underwater hulls and fittings, based on zinc sacrificial anodes, was not particularly reliable. No one could explain why one vessel using these anodes would suffer little to no corrosion of its underwater metals while another similar vessel using zinc anodes that appeared to be the same would receive extensive corrosion damage. Subsequent studies indicated that some zinc anodes did not remain electrochemically active, becoming relatively inert (passivated) over time due to a buildup of a dense, tightly adherent film on the zinc's surface. The passivating film's principal constituents were oxides of iron and the source of the iron was the elemental iron present in the zinc when the anodes were manufactured.

Work continued on the problem over the years with metallurgists seeking an alloy that would perform as or more reliably than Super High Grade Zinc and be easier to produce. They discovered that by alloying the zinc with small amounts of the elements aluminum and cadmium, an increased amount of iron could be tolerated. So, the sacrificial anode specification was changed to allow an increase in the iron content to 0.005 percent. Zinc anodes meeting this new specification and all of the subsequent specifications form a loosely adherent film that is principally zinc oxide. This film will readily slough off the anode's surface to expose fresh zinc alloy to the water, allowing the anode to be continuously electrochemically active. Thus, the zinc will not passivate. It is only through continuous electrochemical action at its surface that a zinc anode can provide corrosion protection for the metal structure to which it is attached.
 

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Worth noting that the so called aluminium anodes are of an alloy of a few different sacrificial metals. They will do, but I would have thought that zinc may have been preferable in only salt use. Standard practice usually
 

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Worth noting that the so called aluminium anodes are of an alloy of a few different sacrificial metals. They will do, but I would have thought that zinc may have been preferable in only salt use. Standard practice usually

Metals are rarely used in their pure form. You can fold a sheet of 3mm thick zinc or pure aluminum like paper. Not much use for either material in their natural state

Zinc, aluminum and magnesium anodes are all alloyed as specified in Mil Spec standards (US Military Specifications)

Zinc would have been “standard” prior to 2005 when the reformulated aluminum anodes came to market.

Side by side comparison of zinc and aluminum anodes. Pretty obvious advantage to aluminum

https://www.boatzincs.com/zinc-vs-aluminum-chart.html
 

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Metals are rarely used in their pure form. You can fold a sheet of 3mm thick zinc or pure aluminum like paper. Not much use for either material in their natural state

Zinc, aluminum and magnesium anodes are all alloyed as specified in Mil Spec standards (US Military Specifications)

Zinc would have been “standard” prior to 2005 when the reformulated aluminum anodes came to market.

Side by side comparison of zinc and aluminum anodes. Pretty obvious advantage to aluminum

https://www.boatzincs.com/zinc-vs-aluminum-chart.html

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good info there, but my understanding was the the alumni blend is a “good for all” idea from the makers to generally suit a mix of all purposes. As you’ll know if solely salt, then zinc is the usual go to. If purely fresh the less noble magnesium would be.
Didnt know that about the 2005 change. Is this just VP ? My 2003 merc certainly came with aluminium anodes new.
 

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Mil-Spec Zinc and Mil-Spec Aluminum anodes provide excellent corrosion protection
for steel and aluminum hull vessels that operate in salt or brackish water. Both are
very effective. Historically, zinc anodes have been less expensive than aluminum but since 2005 that's no longer the case. The more active, longer lasting aluminum anodes are now less expensive, making them a clear favorite for most commercial applications.

mil-spec.GIF
mil-spec-alum.GIF


The difference between zinc and aluminum anodes is summarized below:

Zinc
MIL-A-18001K

Aluminum
Mil-A-24779(SH)
Voltage [SUP](1)[/SUP]
-1040 mV

-1100 mV
Density
0.258 lbs per cubic-inch

0.105 lbs per cubic-inch
Energy Capacity
368 amp-hours per lb

1150 amp-hours per lb
Service Life (relative to Zinc)
100%

120%
Cost (relative to Zinc)
100%

75%

[SUP](1)[/SUP] Galvanic voltage produced relative to a silver/silver-chloride electrode in seawater.
 

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As you’ll know if solely salt, then zinc is the usual go to.
Didnt know that about the 2005 change.
Using an inferior product because it was done that way is foolish

Navalloy is superior in all aspects of performance. Not to mention it’s an environmental friendly material.

My home State of Maryland has proposed an outright ban of the use of “zinc” anodes based on finding concentrations of toxic metal contaminants (cadmium and zinc) in and around marinas

Zinc anodes will go the way of carbon paper sooner than later
 

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Ok guys...but please remember (as I said earlier) that aluminium (quoted) anodes are made up of a composition, to include the most concentration of zinc, in reference to the less noble metals composition. To say that zinc anodes will be banned..would mean that “aluminium” anodes would also be banned.
 

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aluminium (quoted) anodes are made up of a composition, to include the most concentration of zinc.
Not sure where your coming from.

Aluminum anodes are 4-6% zinc compared to 98%+ for a zinc anode. That a 94 - 96% reduction is zinc content.

The problem elements in “zinc” anodes are lead, zinc and cadmium.

Aluminum anodes contain no lead or cadmium

Zinc anodes have 0.006 % lead and 0.25 to 0.07% cadmium content
 
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