At what point do you give up on a hull?

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

Well. Time for a bump.

I was crawling under it the other day and came away shaking my head. Knowing I could not get to the rivets properly, I figured I'd JB weld them until I know what I'm doing better.

Well, I've attached some pictures showing what made me shake my head. Basically, the metal of the hull from the from the end of the keel piece to the stern of the boat is wavy. Not sure if that makes sense, but I think all the years of it sitting under the old motor, plus all the crap from the old motor has weakened the metal enough that it's no longer straight.

Now I don't recall if this is how it was when I bought it or if this is a result of me hanging an outboard off the back of the boat in place of the I/O, but I have no idea how to repair it. I seem to recall in my mind, that I thought the metal was pretty thin back there when I bought the boat, but I may be imagining things.

The motor runs good. The trailer is okay.

Pretty sure I'm not dumping any more money into this thing though.

Anyone seen anything like this or have a better idea to the cause?
 

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tmcalavy

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I'd say you owe yourself an upgrade. Have a party to decomission the old girl and take it to the recycler, or put up a sign that says free boat. Onward and upward.
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

Going on a road trip to look at, and maybe buy a different boat.

Almost the same as I have but an 18 foot Starcraft bowrider (mine is closed) that is built to take an outboard and not hacked apart.

Hope it's worth the trip.

I plan to strip the pieces I need from my old boat and transfer them, then start selling off the pieces I don't need. I'll have a decent windshield, seats, some gauges, steering, a trailer, and an outboard. Hopefully I can recover enough that I'm not out of pocket much.
 

clemsonfor

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I dropped the trailer as level as possible in the driveway and filled it up with water (to the floor level) to see where it was leaking. .........

The floor needs to be redone and the foam replaced (it's soaked for some reason), but that isn't that big an issue.

I think you may not have helped the foam problem by filling it up.

GEt someone who can wld aluminum to weld a patch in the rotted part after you cut it out and use marine tex goop on the leaky rivets and start your rebuild.
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

Going on a road trip to look at, and maybe buy a different boat.

Almost the same as I have but an 18 foot Starcraft bowrider (mine is closed) that is built to take an outboard and not hacked apart.

Hope it's worth the trip.

I plan to strip the pieces I need from my old boat and transfer them, then start selling off the pieces I don't need. I'll have a decent windshield, seats, some gauges, steering, a trailer, and an outboard. Hopefully I can recover enough that I'm not out of pocket much.

Well. I now own an 18 foot bowrider properly set up for an outboard. What I really wanted all along.

Now the work on this new to me boat starts.

The transom needs to come out. Not sure if it is rotted but it is flexing too much and I want this sucker solid.

The floor looks good as do the seats etc. Okay. Let me say the seats are in good shape. I think "look good" is a bit of a stretch as they are a combo of brown and orange. The floor has been re-done and looks to be done well, but I haven't really dug into it yet. I will when I take the transom off.

Nearly new top that is in perfect shape. I found one snap missing off the boat for the bow cover, and that is the only repair the top will need (mine is in rough shape).

It came with a 70hp Johnson that is probably not enough for the boat. But my 115 will replace it nicely. Boats rated for 150.

Have to swap controls, tach etc. Swap my downrigger mounts. Buy a ski pole (I really want to tube behind this as well as fish). And I'm sure I will have a rivet or two to fix, but the hull looks in real good shape. Has had some repairs done at the stern but they are holding up well.

So I've got a motor to sell, parts to sell off my old boat (I'm not comfy selling it as a package as I do think the hull is compromised) and a trailer to sell. So in the end, this upgrade should be pretty cheap. Just some time that I would otherwise be wasting fishing or tubing or stuff.

Biggest issue is where do I put all the "stuff" that I had under my bow before :)
 

ezmobee

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I'm jealous. That's what I want as well. Let's see some pics.
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I'm jealous. That's what I want as well.

What. Two boats in the driveway and a wife who wants her laminate floor finished??? :)


(Oops. I forgot. Beyond these 2 I do have a 12 footer and a 10 footer. Wonder if that is why she's looking at me that way)

Let's see some pics.

Coming. Tonight. Probably start a new thread so as to not confuse myself.
 

tysonnathan

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

sell the old hull for scrap metal.... $.50/lb here for aluminum.. .105/lb for steel... I hauled off a trailer load of junk last week and came home with $569!
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

sell the old hull for scrap metal.... $.50/lb here for aluminum.. .105/lb for steel... I hauled off a trailer load of junk last week and came home with $569!

I gotta inquire about that. And I assume they will only take it once all the wood etc. is stripped out? Course some gasoline and a match could speed that process up.
 

tmcalavy

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

Man, you better jump all over that sweet pup. Especially after posting the ad on this forum. Looks like a real scooter.
 

clemsonfor

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

he already owns it he is just using it for the pics?
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

he already owns it he is just using it for the pics?

Correct.

Geez. Think I would post an ad if it wasn't already in my driveway?????

Anyway, starting a new thread.
 

tysonnathan

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I gotta inquire about that. And I assume they will only take it once all the wood etc. is stripped out? Course some gasoline and a match could speed that process up.

The scrap yard where I take my metal requires that you remove non-metal debris from the materials you are bringing in. They weigh my rig when I pull in and when I leave and pay me for the difference. However, if you didnt want to do the work your local scrap yard may just agree to pay you for an estimate of what its worth... Just depends on the management. If they agree to do this they may give you a pretty low ball estimate of the weight, but it may be worth it not to have to strip the boat.
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: At what point do you give up on a hull?

I think this will be a winter project.

I don't want to get rid of the hull until my new boat is set up and working in case I need pieces or even some aluminum for the new boat. So much of it will transfer over.
 
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