Bad Weather question

Adamf24

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Hey everybody. I just recently got into boating, purchased an '03 Hurricane 237 OB and had a question about bad weather conditions. The other day we went out and got hit on the way back by some winds at 20-25 mph, and it had me wondering what is my boat's limit in terms of handling bad weather (my boat doesn't have a true 'V' shaped hull).

My boat didn't feel that capable in the water with those winds, but maybe it was just my inexperience. It actually was only my 3rd time taking out the boat and I definitely didn't feel comfortable with the hard waves hitting us.
 

Chiliando

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Re: Bad Weather question

Did you check the marine weather report before going out?

If the report had said 20-25mph winds I would not have gone out. As far as
boat limits go, seeing as you are new to boating(so am I), I think your learning curve will should be the real limiting factor. Even with much bigger and capable boats, we still have a lot to learn.


Have you taken an in class safety course. They are well worth doing.

Enjoy your boat!!
 

capt sam

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Re: Bad Weather question

your boat is like a giant sail in those winds, trying to control it is a big pain not to mention the chop. obviously you now know what kind of wind you don't want to go out in, I always check the weather report before I go, if they get anywhere near 20kt winds I don't go.
 

Adamf24

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Re: Bad Weather question

Did you check the marine weather report before going out?

If the report had said 20-25mph winds I would not have gone out. As far as
boat limits go, seeing as you are new to boating(so am I), I think your learning curve will should be the real limiting factor. Even with much bigger and capable boats, we still have a lot to learn.


Have you taken an in class safety course. They are well worth doing.

Enjoy your boat!!

Foolishly, no I didn't check the weather report, aside from seeing that it said it was going to be sunny.

And I've taken an online course for boating safety which wasn't very informative, so I think I want to take a real-life hands on type of class.
 

Chiliando

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Re: Bad Weather question

Yeah, the on-line course is ok but I am now taking a 10 night Power Suadron course with my son(13) and it is a big diffrence. Best $55.00 I can spend.

It is giving my son a great foundation and I am surprised how much I am picking up from it too.
 

ziggy

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way to go on the power squadron classes. i was a member for quite a few years and only recently dropped out because of lack of funds. i took all the classes i could. including a weather class that was cool because our commander got a real weather man to teach the class to us... that being said. i didn't watch the forecast last year one day too. i got caught in 30-35 mph winds while overnighting.
my 19' boat did well in the tall surf. (after i had 4 adults get my boat off the beach i was blowed up on) sure i was uncomfortable, but when yer in the stuff, ya use all the skills you have to stay in the game. everytime you get caught in bad stuff, you'll get better at dealing with it. the more you go boating, the more likely your gonna get caught in a bad situation, be it weather or something else. every time well test your skills, everytime you'll be able to look back and say, gee, i coulda done this or that better. so, you'll learn. just keep at it and learn all you can from your classes, they'll teach you much. then, just wait. your next time is coming for having an exciting ride. mine too... ;)
 

Adamf24

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Re: Bad Weather question

Good advice Ziggy.

And I just checked the marine weather report online and noticed there was a small craft advisory out this weekend. I'm an idiot =)
 

Casco Bay Outrage

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Re: Bad Weather question

In addition to taking a safety class, have everyone (including you) wear your PDF every time you are on the water.
 

JoLin

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Re: Bad Weather question

Yeah, the on-line course is ok but I am now taking a 10 night Power Suadron course with my son(13) and it is a big diffrence. Best $55.00 I can spend.

It is giving my son a great foundation and I am surprised how much I am picking up from it too.

Ditto the Power Squadron. My wife and I joined our local chapter 18 months ago after taking the basic course, and we just completed the Seamanship course. The members are great and have years and years of experience behind them. Whatever you want or need to know, somebody there has btdt. We have rendezvous and raft-ups in the summer, continuous educational opportunities, etc.

As a novice boater myself, I can't tell you how nice it is to have that kind of support available. Give it a try.
 

Chris1956

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Re: Bad Weather question

Adam, I would be surprized if a 25MPH wind would make your boat unsafe. It may make you uncomfortable, but with more experience, I think you will gain the confidence to overcome your discomfort.

On Barnegat Bay NJ, the wind blows(20-30MPH) from the south most every afternoon. Since I am returning from fishing or the beach in my 19 or 21 footer on some of those days, I have gotten quite used to it. You set the motor trim and speed to give the smoothest ride possible and take your time. If the wind comes from directly behind or directly ahead, it is easier to manage. If you have a side wind, it isn't too bad either. If you have a diagnal wind, it will tend to move the boat a bit, and is the trickiest. Running perpendicular to the diagnal sea will usually help. it is like tacking in a sailboat. Oh yeah, learning to duck the spray is a useful skill.
 

Adamf24

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Re: Bad Weather question

Thats kinda what I figured Chris.

Although it didn't help that as we were returning back to the Marina I discovered that the hull was full of rain water and that the bilge pump didn't work. That certainly made me feel very uncomfortable.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Bad Weather question

First, welcome to the world of boating. I think you will find it to be a lot of fun and a great way to unwind from the pressures of everyday life. That said, it is an activity that is best enjoyed when considerable time and effort is invested in becoming educated in regard to safety, boat handling, maintenance, etc.

I'm not familiar with your boat, so I did a little surfing on the net to see what type of hull it is. It looks to me that the boat is one of the recently popular deckboat hybrids - a little bit deck boat, a little bit ski boat, a little bit cruiser, etc. While it looks like a very nice and very practical boat in many ways, it will have certain limitations. In regard to rough water, that limitation may be handling ability and "seaworthyness." This is not to say that it isn't a good boat - it just might not be the boat to handle rough water comfortably, or in extreme conditions, safely.

Now that you have had an experience that has shown what weather and "sea" conditions that your boat doesn't do well in, you have a benchmark on what to avoid. In this sense, you have just had your first lesson in seamanship. You also had a lesson in the importance of maintaining a constant awareness of weather conditions.

From now on, I suspect that you will check the weather before you go out in the boat. Now that you know to do this, extend the practice by monitoring weather throughout the day. This is easy to do - just about any VHF marine radio these days has multiple NOAA Weather Radio channels built in. When it becomes apparent that those conditions will exceed both your boat's capabilities and your experience level, its time to make a change of plans and get to safety. BTW, this is true of any boat. Each has its own limitations and they must be respected.

As others in this thread have said, boating safety and seamanship courses are also valuable. I have been boating for nearly fifty years and learned what I know about the activity from the teachings of other boaters, practical experience and a minor amount of studying. I also hold a commecial pilot certificate and had to study weather and climate during flight school. Inspite of all of this background, I recently decided to begin to do some formal study on boating and safety. I'm doing this because of a thread right in this boating forum, which asked how many members have actually taken a boating safety course. Frankly, the thread made me think about a few things. None of us "know it all" and, as I thought about the topic, I decided that there were surely many things that I have forgotten over the years.

For this reason, I have started the process by "taking" the BoatUS Foundation online boating course. I'm studying a little bit each night and willl take the exam when I'm ready. Once I have completed this course, I'll probably find another one to do - perhaps Power Sqaudron or something like it.

I guess the bottom line is that we have to always be willing to learn as boaters.
 

xxturbowesxx

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Re: Bad Weather question

I check the marine forcast from Weatherunderground.com and if seas are over 3ft I just stay home or go fish the rivers/lakes..Of course i have a fish/ski boat(bass boat hull) and dont belong out in anything over 3 ft.. I got caught on a lake with 4ft waves on a windy day and although I was comfortable its not fun.. Know your limits and after that day i think you have an idea where they are..
 
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