BARRY BONDS

[Fly Rod]

He should be thrown out of baseball just like Pete Rose and never admitted to the Hall of Fame!!!!<br /><br />Give me a break!!! his agent says he didn't know he was taking stimulents!!!!<br /><br />Ball players are no and never will be HEROS!!!!!

 

[12Footer]

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Well, maybee he didn't. There is a slim chance he is telling the truth. I thought it was steroids he was taking (or given without his knowledge).<br />Knowing that there are screening methods to detect for such abuses, a proffessional would avoid it like the plaque. A trainer on the other hand, has little to lose, due to the burden of proof. Besides, the trainer aint makin millions per season.<br />If he did, they should make an example of him, just as they did with Pete Rose.

 

[KaGee]

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Just seems awful coincidental that his best production has been in the last few years.

 

[BLU LUNCH]

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Bonds should of been tossed after the racist remarks he made refering to Ruth and Aaron stating that he want to pass Ruth because he was white but he would never try to pass Aaron. Look at pictures of him 15 years ago just a skinny ball player and now......give me a break. As we all do, we bulk up with tons of muscle as we apporch 40 years. I hope that he is banned from baseball.........

 

[FLATHEAD]

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Bonds is moving in on some long standing baseball records. As far as I am concerned any record he breaks should not count!!! He cheated to get there, therefore no record book for him!!!!

 

[Fly Rod]

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Come on 12footer!!! the only reason he came forward is because he was exposed yesterday by a co player!!!! Next you will be telling me that Ricky williams didn't know that he was doing drugs!!! there is no place on earth for these type of people!!!

 

[1730V]

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Barry did not know? Yea right! Can anyone say Bravo Sierra? <br />The money has made the temptation impossible to resist for most. Sports in general is broken.<br />We pay more attention and give more money to these people that produce nothing more than so called entertainment. To some. <br />Companies that make miracle drugs and other products are the first targets of our hate and lawsuits. US companies are prime targets. Foreign owned companies are given a free ride. No US assets to collect. What a system.<br />The fans will forgive and the lawyers will get them forgiven. What a mess.

 

[12Footer]

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Originally posted by Fly Rod:<br /> Come on 12footer!!! the only reason he came forward is because he was exposed yesterday by a co player!!!! Next you will be telling me that Ricky williams didn't know that he was doing drugs!!! there is no place on earth for these type of people!!!

No. Between you,me and this electronic fence post, I think he knew too. I'm just sayin, there is that slim chance he is not lying. <br />And if he knew, he should be given the "Rose Treatment".<br />I sure don't like seeing my Grandson emmulate WWF Basketball-rappers iether.

 

[1730V]

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12footer<br /><br />I agree. There is a slim chance. And I mean slim. We are not to judge that causes consequence. We as citizens have agreed upon a system that is to do that for us. Many feel that system is broken. As I said. What a mess.<br />We have to agree as a society that this type of entertainment is not worth that kind of money. Unfortunetaly we get what we pay for. Good or bad.

 

[Mr.Ladyfish]

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I heard Mrk Grace on the radio yesterday. He is disgusted with the steroid use, says he knew players who were using but wouldn't rat them out. I think that's a major part of the problem. The guys that don't use should demand that the union put a good testing & punishment system in place. They are the ones who have the power to get this crap out of the game.<br /><br />Grace also said that Bonds gave the smartest answer he could because it could never be proved to be a lie.

 

[Mr.Ladyfish]

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Rick Reilly from Sports Illustrated had a good answer when asked if he thought they should put asteriks beside records set by Bonds, McGwire, et al. He said it should be a syringe not an asterik.

 

[KaGee]

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Ask Lyle Alzado about steroids.... ooopsss, ya can't... he's dead... from a brain tumor... from the steriods.

 

[DJ]

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Our Senator-MCcain, has tossed a challenge out to major league baseball. "Clean it up or Congress will".<br /><br />Personally, I believe that Congress has no business meddling in private enterprise. But, that's our "loose cannon" for you.<br /><br />Maybe the threat will get major league baseball off the mark.

 

[lakelivin]

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Let's not forget about the other MLB players using steroids. The estimate is what, something like between 20 & 40%? <br /><br />I'm not saying that the Bonds criticism is unjust, just that he's one of many, and that we shouldn't forget about the other users just because Bonds is better than them.<br /><br />And I think MLB deserves as much criticism as the cheating players for allowing this to happen. Their policy is a joke. As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a policy until just a short time ago. And the current policy is ridiculous. I think I heard that a player would have to fail a drug test 5 times before you they were banned for ONE season? And that a player could be randomly tested only once a year?<br /><br />I'm probably off on specifics of the MLB policy, but I'm comfortable enough with the spirit of it to know that it's worthless.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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That's right LL.<br />Barry and the steroids is just like Sammy and the bat. He got caught.

 

[NYMINUTE]

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He is really no different from th rest of us. We all look for an edge to live longer, look better, win more, and so forth. We demand great performances from our entertainment dollars, and expect winners. We go to concerts where the musicians are stoned, they don't asterick the paid attendance, or the gold records. From my perspective do as you wish, know the consequences, and DON'T force your choices on me , my family or my friends. Man am I opinionated????

 

[lakelivin]

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To add to my above post:<br /><br />You've also gotta lay alot of blame on the MLB Players Association. They're just as guilty as the league (if not more so) for the lack of a credible drug use policy.

 

[Ralph 123]

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They should just make them legal and let them be administered by real Docs with full risk disclosure. Anything an athlete does changes their body - vitamins, proper nutrition, training regiments, high tech medical procedures, etc. <br /><br />Players today eat better, train better and have better equipment than players 100 years ago so comparing them doesn't make sense anyway. <br /><br />Make it as safe as possible and in the open because you'll never stop most athletes from doing anything they can to get an edge anyway. they've been using them for decades in almost every sport. Everybody knows it. End the hypocrisy...<br /><br />People want home runs and that's what they are getting. If we wanted fewer runs we'd deaden the ball and/or extend the outfield.<br /><br />As for McCain, this confirms my worst fears about him. A US Senator who wants to legislate baseball!!! Give me a break! We have real problems for our leaders to deal with!

 

[cbnoodles]

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I don't think we should be so ready to accept the consequences of condoning this behavior as Ralph has suggested. Hypocrisy aside, the reason we watch sports is to see extraordinary performance by people with extraordinary talent. If we are to allow or ignore performance enhancement, we are dismissing the point of paying to see professional athletes.<br /><br />Isn't it enough to see someone hit a baseball 400 feet when it's thrown at over 90 mph? Is it really more exciting to see the ball fly 430 feet? Or, how about watching a human run 100 meters in 9 and some change seconds? Isn't the price of shaving a couple of hundreths of seconds too high if it is accomplished by other than legitimate means? Bonds and any others who twist the rules or truth to suit their own purpose should absolutely be penalized. This is a problem that is contributed to by players, trainers, management, owners, and, yes, the fans.<br /><br />If you don't want your sports stars to cheat, stop watching them and buying the products they endorse. Let their sponsors know you are doing this. If enough people do it, they'll get the message in a big way and in a darn big hurry.

 

[Barlow]

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Oh, sorry..<br /><br />..I thought this was another investment topic <br /><br />