Battery wires switches devices!??

aeviaanah

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Just curious if someone can point me in the right direction. I am new to the whole boating thing, just bought two bilge pumps. I plan on having one for the livewell recirculation and the other for hull drainage. I am waiting on a new 15hp 4 stroke to come in.

I will be using...

Minn kota 45 lb thrust trolling motor 12v
15 hp 4 stroke (electric start)
two bilge pumps
-one continuously (after the catch) use a switch??
-one when hull gets a bit of water
bow light

what kind of battery I will need?
How many batteries?

I can figure out the wiring just not sure if there is a box that all wires go to, then from there to the battery...A picture showing the setup would help me get a visual, that or a diagram of some sort. Thanks!
 

Lyle29464

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

several good post on this plus diagrams.
just do a search'
I would use them as a guideline but remember you can always start a 15 by hand. I am guessing at the hull size and I might be tempted to use one deep cycle and a timmer on the livewell.
 

aeviaanah

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

several good post on this plus diagrams.
just do a search'
I would use them as a guideline but remember you can always start a 15 by hand. I am guessing at the hull size and I might be tempted to use one deep cycle and a timmer on the livewell.

Thanks will do...

Boat is 12'. You are recommending one deep cycle battery for the whole boat? I'm assuming you mean a timer correct? I was thinking just a toggle switch to turn on and off whenever needed. What advantages do you think a timer will have over the switch?
 

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

Thanks will do...

Boat is 12'. You are recommending one deep cycle battery for the whole boat? I'm assuming you mean a timer correct? I was thinking just a toggle switch to turn on and off whenever needed. What advantages do you think a timer will have over the switch?

Switch and timer and one battery total. The well does not need to run all the time. Save power for the troller. You can always add a battery and a switch if needed. I would use a on-off-on toggle to turn on the timer and override if needed.
 

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

You need a separate fuse panel a switch panel, or a switch panel that has circuit breakers incorporated into it. You run a pair of wires (one black and one red) from the battery to the fuse panel. From there the load side of each fuse goes to the corresponding switch and from there to the device it controls. Grounds obviously go to ground. Check the "Generic Boat Wiring Diagram" in the "stickies" at the top of this forum (not at that top of this page).
 

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

As its only a 15 hp you dont need a large starter battery so a small one from K mart for the motor ...why have an electric start and then have to risk having to pull it? A second larger battery maybe at the bow for the bow motor.....You dont need to inter connect them if you are going to charge the troller motor at home . The bilge pump and the circulation pump with simple switches or a fused switch panel will be fine run off the starting battery ..that so called simple diagram at the top is terrible .Confusing for a beginner ...a mix of 12 and 24v with bad graphics ....
 

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

Fucawi has it right. A general rule is you wire so you always have battery power to start your engine. Therefore a separate batery for the "house".
 

aeviaanah

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Re: Battery wires switches devices!??

Switch and timer and one battery total. The well does not need to run all the time. Save power for the troller. You can always add a battery and a switch if needed. I would use a on-off-on toggle to turn on the timer and override if needed.
Thanks ill be sure to find a switch panel that has circuit breakers in it.
You need a separate fuse panel a switch panel, or a switch panel that has circuit breakers incorporated into it. You run a pair of wires (one black and one red) from the battery to the fuse panel. From there the load side of each fuse goes to the corresponding switch and from there to the device it controls. Grounds obviously go to ground. Check the "Generic Boat Wiring Diagram" in the "stickies" at the top of this forum (not at that top of this page).
Thanks for the link, this is exactly what I needed to look at. Get a general idea of wiring. How many batteries would you recommend?
As its only a 15 hp you dont need a large starter battery so a small one from K mart for the motor ...why have an electric start and then have to risk having to pull it? A second larger battery maybe at the bow for the bow motor.....You dont need to inter connect them if you are going to charge the troller motor at home . The bilge pump and the circulation pump with simple switches or a fused switch panel will be fine run off the starting battery ..that so called simple diagram at the top is terrible .Confusing for a beginner ...a mix of 12 and 24v with bad graphics ....
When you say a small one? How small? I am a beginner at this and have no idea what is considered small. From what I understand I want a size 27. Are you saying to run a size 27 starting battery for starting and for bilge and circulation pump? And use a separate deep cycle battery for trolling?

Fucawi has it right. A general rule is you wire so you always have battery power to start your engine. Therefore a separate batery for the "house".
That sounds right but now I just need to figure out the size of batteries and what type to use.
 
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