Boats bounces at higher speeds

farmermark

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I bought a 1990 ski supreme boat a couple of weeks ago and it wants to start bouncing at higher speeds. It does it quicker with more people in the boat but it still does it when it is just my wife and myself in it. Do I need a fatsac in the front and if so what kind and how much? Maybe I need trim tabs on the back instead and if so what is advised. Maybe it is a prop problem instead. Looking for help with this.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I am no expert but maybe i can help. Just alittle more info needed. How big is your boat and is it an open bow?
 

AndrewsArk

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

Are you trimmed up when this is happening? Sounds like you're porpoising and need to trim down a little.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

Are you trimmed up when this is happening? Sounds like you're porpoising and need to trim down a little.

x2. If you can, trim it in a little and it will stop.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I bought a 1990 ski supreme boat a couple of weeks ago .

Most ski boats are inboard. or is this an I/O? If the former, you have to distribute weight differently or look at adding tabs. or the inboard experienced may have some other sugestions.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

where did it get moved to? It is an inboard and 19 ft long. No trim to work with. Also, it is a xlosed bow.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

In my experience, it's unusual for a well set up inboard to porpoise. I would check to see if you have developed a "rocker" in the hull. The rear of the hull bottom should be dead flat fore and aft for about 4' forward of the transom. If the hull is a little convex in that area, it can cause porpoising. Use a straight edge to check. I'd guess it does it quicker with more people because the center of gravity of the boat is shifting further back as you add more people.

You could also try moving more weight forward to the bow, or add trim tabs, as you mentioned. Look at the different trim tabs, decide which brand you want, and call the company. Most of them are very ready to recommend which tab would fit best for your boat. You'll want length, beam, weight, and deadrise angle information to give them.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

Your thread moved to Boat Topics non Motor related. The trim control button (switch) should be located on your throtle control on the vertical part of the handle. Then there is a trailer button also, this is used to lift drive up high for loading and unloading off trailer. Caution do not use trailer button while boat is in opperation in the water or on muffs!!!!!. If your trim is not on handle, could be on dash. I dont think i have ever seen a newer boat (30 yrs old or so ) without a trim button. I could be wrong about this. I have a 1986 21ft Celeberty and it has a trim button. I keep it all the way down when throtleing up and when it planes just bump the button up a little watch the speedo and you will see it gain speed, Then add some throtle and bump little more, when the boat starts to bounce back off the trim botton slowley untill it stops. Then you are in the sweet spot. just remember to trim back down when you thottle down. Hope this helps
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

Your thread moved to Boat Topics non Motor related. The trim control button (switch) should be located on your throtle control on the vertical part of the handle. Then there is a trailer button also, this is used to lift drive up high for loading and unloading off trailer. Caution do not use trailer button while boat is in opperation in the water or on muffs!!!!!. If your trim is not on handle, could be on dash. I dont think i have ever seen a newer boat (30 yrs old or so ) without a trim button. I could be wrong about this. I have a 1986 21ft Celeberty and it has a trim button. I keep it all the way down when throtleing up and when it planes just bump the button up a little watch the speedo and you will see it gain speed, Then add some throtle and bump little more, when the boat starts to bounce back off the trim botton slowley untill it stops. Then you are in the sweet spot. just remember to trim back down when you thottle down. Hope this helps


Its an inboard with no trim.
 

AndrewsArk

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

What model boat is this? I'd like to look it up. I believe you that it doesn't have trim but I wonder why.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

What model boat is this? I'd like to look it up. I believe you that it doesn't have trim but I wonder why.

It's a straight inboard, not an I/O. They don't have trim, though I am surprised he doesn't have tabs.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

Inboards don't have the ability to trim, and most 20-22 foot ski boats don't have tabs. It's possible a hook could have formed if the hull hung over too far from the trailer bunks. But I'm guessing it's a weight distribution thing...
 

farmermark

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I'll check the bottom for a non uniform area. I looked under it when i bought it but I didn't look for this. If it does have a cavity what can be done? fill it in? Thanks for the info.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

A hook (when there is a cavity) will typically act like a trim tab and push the bow down. A Rocker (where the bottom just in front of the transom is lower than the transom- so it would "rock" if it were on a flat surface) will allow the stern to sink down slightly at speed, and set up a porpoising condition. If that's the problem, and the depth of the non-flat section isn't too bad, the easiest way is probably to add trim tabs. You could also add some layers of glass at the transom (and in front of the rocker if it's big) to bring the bottom flat in that area 4-5' in front of the transom. But take a look with a straight edge, and let us know what you find. Maybe some of the other straight inboard guys will catch onto this thread and give you some more advice also. I've never had the problem, just read about it.

If it turns out to be the bottom out of flat, and it's a trailered boat, you'll want to look into how the boat is supported by the trailer.

If you don't see any bottom problems, then I'd go with weight distribution being the most likely problem. You could try adding a couple of batteries or other heavy objects far forward in the bow, and see if this alleviates the condition. If that works, then you can look at things like moving the gas tank and batteries forward. If just a little weight works, just leave whatever you used there...moving tanks and batteries is a lot of work!
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I looked under it and it seemed to be straight. I might try some sandbags or something in the front to see if that helps. I'll let everyone know this weekend.
 

farmermark

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I was out this afternoon and had put 120 pounds in the front. It seemed to be better. It looked like it planed out better but i didn't get a chance to see how fast i could go before it started bouncing or if it was going to. Too many people in the boat and everyone wanted to ski right away.
 

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Re: Boats bounces at higher speeds

I scanned the thread - does the OP say roughly what speed the porpoising happens? I understand it can change with load. But the reason I ask as that these direct drive units are _NOT_ speed boats.

My old I/O trimmed out nice got 45MPH with my family on board. There's absolutely no way my direct drive ski boat will go that fast. I tried once and hit 40MPH on a calm day, but then hit some small rollers and bounced so bad I shifted my windshield and had to fix it!

So, I usually cruise between 20MPH and 30MPH depending on how calm the water is. I don't plan on going fast with my direct drive.
 
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