Bravo one lower unit carrier help needed

kleake

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Let me first say this boat spent most of its life is salt water, so things are a bit corroded.

My propeller shaft is loose and seeps drive oil out around it, so I figured I would pull it out, check the bearings and replace all seals,,, sounds simple enough (all things considered).

I bought the tool for the carrier spanner nut and tried to take it off,,, it didn't budge,,,, I put my jack handle on as an extension,,,, no movement. So, plan b is to drill holes in that nut to relieve pressure. Well, there is a lip on mine that I had to grind down in order to get a flat enough area that my center punch and drill would do any good. After several attempts I finally got that nut out of there and things were looking better. I move on to the carrier, and it doesn't budge either. I try a few things with no luck, and plenty of frustration building. Realizing my bearings have some play in them, I figure I can hammer the carrier in deeper just to break it loose, then try again to pull it out. Hammer, punch, air hammer, more air hammer,,,, no movement. hmmmm,,,, So I stick the thing in my 12 ton shop press (the tool pressing on a ring, that is pressing evenly around the carrier, so no worries of warping or breaking it due to uneven pressure). 3 attempts each applying more pressure and the thing isn't moving! I finally say the heck with it and crank down on that thing to the point things might go flying, then smacked it with a hammer a few times and I didn't see or feel any movement, but upon check on the shaft, there was no more play in it and it seemed just right. It had moved about 1/16 of an inch and tightened things up nicely, but not too much as it rotates nice and smooth.

My question is this,,,,, do you think this little adjustment that has taken the play out of the shaft is enough to help the seal actually seal around the shaft? The reason I ask is that carrier is not going to come out of there without destroying it, and likely the housing. If the shaft is now centered in the seal, and not wollering it out, it should be ok. The bearings are smooth, and everything seems good. I am thinking I will stick a new nut on it and run it till it gives out, then replace the complete lower unit.

Any other bright ideas as to a good way to get that thing out of there, or do I cut my losses and hope the seal will hold?
 

madam

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Re: Bravo one lower unit carrier help needed

I would be hesitant to run the drive after what you've done. Something is obviously mechanically wrong and needs corrected.

This company makes an amazing penetrant for dissasembly of frozen components, http://www.kanolabs.com/. The product is called "Kroil". I would soak the area between the carrier and lower housing overnite and give it another try. Make sure you have cleaned the bore of the housing very good where the carrier comes out before you attempt to pull it.

Good Luck.
 

kleake

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Re: Bravo one lower unit carrier help needed

Well, I kindof agree, but by the way I felt of the drive before and after, it seems to be much better. For example, if I pushed in on the prop while turning, it was silky smooth, but if I pulled out while rotating i could feel the teeth ever so slightly. The prop would move up and down just a slight bit, but it wasn't a crazy amount. The feel of this has me to think the last person to work on the drive may not have gotten a bearing race completely seated and over time, it seated all of the way loosening the bearing preload. (I purchased this boat last fall, it had been 3 years since it was in the water, but the outdrive had "supposedly" had work done 2 seasons before it was put on the trailer.)
After pressing the carrier in, there is very little resistance to rotation, I feel only a tiny amount of play in the gears, and everything feels smooth. The preload is definitely not too much as it's slightly easier to turn than my alpha drive on my other boat.

Honestly, I would like to get into the thing and see what things look like, but I feel pretty confident about the smoothness I am feeling, and I really don't know how it will come out. What I may do is put some penatrant on it and let it set, then try again, but I really have my doubts after knowing how much force I had to apply to get it to move at all.
 

johnbhite

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Re: Bravo one lower unit carrier help needed

If you want to remove the bearing carrier, you need the removal tool, I believe the part number for the GLM tool is 90005. They are around $75, from mercstuff.com. Best thing to do is download the merc service manual #11 from this site and read that section carefully, It will tell you in good detail what needs to be done.
 

kleake

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Re: Bravo one lower unit carrier help needed

If you want to remove the bearing carrier, you need the removal tool, I believe the part number for the GLM tool is 90005. They are around $75, from mercstuff.com. Best thing to do is download the merc service manual #11 from this site and read that section carefully, It will tell you in good detail what needs to be done.

I've got the book, and I see the puller, but I really question if the puller will be able to get it out of there. I have heard alot of people saying the puller doesn't work that well if the carrier has been in there a while. I have it back together now, and am watching for leaks. If it continues to leak, I will pull it off and see about getting it out of there. If there are no leaks, I will monitor it for heat and wear, and go from there. Everything feels right, but that doesn't mean it will be right.
 
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