Cell phones on airliners.

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DJ

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Do you want to see cell phone useage allowed on in flight airliners?
 
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DJ

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Re: Cell phones on airliners.

ABSOLUTELY no way. Some people become absolute rude, mindless, jerks as soon as they start talking on them. Can you imagine one hundred of these self important geniuses on one flight?<br /><br />Absolute mayhem. :eek:
 

Terry H

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I have to agree with you DJ. Don't own one myself, don't want to be that important, I guess...just a thought :)
 

NathanY

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Too many Nazi's work at airports, therefore I dont fly. So I dont care either way. IMHO
 
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Unfortuneately, I fly allot.<br /><br />As far as the cell phone goes, it is a necessity for business. However, I will NEVER let it interrupt a meeting or one on one contact. Nor will I answer it in a public place, such as a restaraunt.
 

Scaaty

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Originally posted by DJ:<br /> Can you imagine one hundred of these self important geniuses on one flight?<br />Absolute mayhem. :eek:
I have enough trouble with that same 100 on the freeway now, and I can't even hear them on the motorcycle!
 

Elmer Fudge

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Re: Cell phones on airliners.

Posted by Nate in AR:"Too many Nazi's work at airports, therefore I dont fly. So I dont care either way. IMHO"<br /><br /><br />Is that not a bit harsh, considering the all the precaution deemed necessary since 9/11?
 

Twidget

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Over heard at the airport(really). 'My name is John Smith, my American Express number is......'<br /><br />I was about 20 feet away from this idiot. Hope no one really wanted his information.
 

kenimpzoom

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My brother uses his cell phone a lot because his job requires it. He flys a lot too. He will probably be agaisnt it, cause he enjoys the excuse "I'll be out of touch, I'll be on the plane".<br /><br />For me, either way is fine, but I wont use it.<br /><br />ken
 

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I have cell phones for myself and my 8 drivers and that is how they stay in touch with me, so I answer mine at anytime, anywhere. Goes with the business.
 
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SBN,<br /><br />If you get hit upside the head with a fully dressed baked tater, it was me. :D
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Just make sure it has plenty of pepper on it DJ. :p
 

cmyers_uk

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I dont want to be sitting on a plane surrounded by 300 ridiculous ring tones when Im trying to sleep. And I cant help but listen in on peoples conversations so Id be awake waiting for their calls. For me its a No Thank You.
 

fixin

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I said yes,just in case the plain is going down I want to be able to say goodbye
 

aspeck

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Yea Fixin, good in emergency situations, and on some of the long flights I am on, it would be nice to be able to use my phone, but I don't want to be bothered with incoming rings or people yelling when they talk on the phone. I guess if there were no incoming calls, or at least no incoming rings - had to be on vibrate only, and people had to keep their voices down, it would be okay. Unfortunately we do not live in such a courteous world!
 

ob

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Maybe they could come up with a cell phone area on the plane ....................just aft of the coach seating and let um yak away.Oh ,and maybe require full disassembly of them at the security screening.Kinda like what they do to a suspicious car crossing the Mexican border into the states. :p
 

kd6nem

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Let's see, with that altitude I wonder how many cell towers it would try to light up? But cellular technology uses a voting system with the best signal winning- which would lead to an unbelievable cell phone billing statement to say the least.<br /><br />But here is my real objection, and I'm surprised that no one else has picked up on this yet: any digital & some analog devices may well cause interference to all or some of the many aircraft navigation systems. The pilot might as a result be thinking he is going where he is supposed to when he/she is actually encroaching on some other planes space- an unsafe situation to say the least. It has happened often enough to be way beyond a mere theoretical issue. Folks using a CD or MP3 player might not think twice, but there ARE documented cases of aircraft being a few miles off course because of radio frequency interference casused by these, cell phones, or laptop computers. Very dangerous in congested airspace! The most critical time is when approaching an airport, hence the admonition to turn off all appliances (including phones, gameboy devices, computers, EVERYTHING (even though it might well have no radio involved) because all these devices DO emit some mild radio energy, and that really sensitive navigation system needs to be telling the flight crew the right thing when they are taking that big 400 mph beer can full of people toward an airport.<br /><br />Maybe the question should be: Do you want your pilot to have trustworthy readings while he/she is doing an instrument approach with you or a loved one aboard? Might make a lot of folks take the warning more seriously if they understood that the warnings are actually given for a valid safety reason.
 

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Keep them out of Restaurants too. Hands free in ground travel.
 

dolluper

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The airwaves are so overloaded it's surpizeing those "beer cans" fly!I think teach people how to operate phones properly would be order and pull them off them if they don't [ phone police nazi's] my 2 cents
 

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Update:<br />FCC to Allow Wireless Access on Planes<br />Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:31 PM EST<br />The Associated Press<br />By GENARO C. ARMAS<br /><br />Passengers taking to the skies for U.S. flights could be checking e-mail and surfing the Web through high-speed Internet connections in a couple of years. And the day when travelers can chat away on cell phones while in flight might not be far behind.<br /><br />The Federal Communications Commission on Wednesday approved technology giving airlines what could be a cheaper option to provide Internet connections. The commissioners also voted to solicit public comment about ending the ban on in-flight use of cell phones.<br /><br />"Today we live in an increasingly mobile world and Americans are demanding greater access to wireless services and applications," FCC chairman Michael Powell said. "We are pushing the frontiers in order to bring the information age to all corners of the world."<br /><br />The FCC already had approved a high-speed Internet service provided by Boeing Co. Called "Connexion" which uses satellites to get air passengers online. The service is offered by some international carriers, including some flights to and from the United States.<br /><br />But airline industry officials say cash-strapped domestic carriers haven't bought into the service largely because of the cost _ an estimated $500,000 per jet to install the needed equipment.<br /><br />The FCC on Wednesday voted to allow airlines to offer high-speed Internet connections through the frequencies used by seatback phones. It would cost roughly $100,000 to outfit a plane with the necessary equipment.<br /><br />As he waited for a flight at Washington's Reagan National Airport, Tim Thomas, 47 of Binghamton, N.Y., said he relished the thought of being able to work on reports and send e-mail from his seat on the plane.<br /><br />"I would find that a very efficient use of that time," Thomas said.<br /><br />Doug Wills, spokesman for the Air Transport Association, the major airlines' trade group, said the FCC ruling cleared regulatory barriers, though airlines are still analyzing costs. The airlines "would love to see cheaper and more affordable competition among the technology companies," he said.<br /><br />Left undecided by the FCC was how many companies would be allowed, through an auction, to offer the service. Oak Brook, Ill.-based Verizon Airfone, which is the only company that offers seatback phone service, maintains that letting one company handle the bulk of the service would ensure the best quality.<br /><br />Others, including AirCell, argue that two companies should have equal access in providing services to prevent one company from having a monopoly. FCC officials said the auction would take place within a year.<br /><br />Once plans are completed and planes outfitted with the equipment, high-speed Internet access could be offered on domestic flights by 2006, said Jack Blumenstein, chairman and chief executive officer of Louisville, Colo.-based AirCell.<br /><br />Bill Pallone, president of Verizon Airfone, said high-speed access through his company might cost roughly $10 for a three-hour flight.<br /><br />Connexion by Boeing spokeswoman Sherry Nebel said her company remains in discussions with domestic carriers about carrying the satellite service. Connexion charges $29.95 for unlimited Internet access on flights over six hours, $19.95 for flights between three and six hours, and $14.95 for flights under three hours.<br /><br />The timeline for when air travelers might be able to start using cell phones in flight is murkier. Both the FCC and the Federal Aviation Administration ban the practice.<br /><br />Currently, the only way passengers on domestic flights can communicate with the ground is through phones usually built into seatbacks. That service isn't very popular: It costs far more than conventional or cell phones _ about $3.99 a minute _ and the reception often is poor.<br /><br />The FCC is concerned that cell phone use in an airplane might interfere with cell phone use on the ground. It will start taking public comment on the issue in early 2005, and a decision could be made within a year.<br /><br />"The ability to communicate is a vital one, but good cell phone etiquette is also essential," FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein said. "Our job is to see if this is possible and then let consumers work out the etiquette."<br /><br />The FAA's concern stems from whether airborne cell phone calls could interfere with a plane's navigation and electrical systems, agency spokeswoman Laura Brown said. The technology used on seatback phones causes no such interference.<br /><br />The FAA has commissioned a private, independent firm to study the issue. Results aren't due until 2006. Brown said any decision on cell phone use won't be made until then.
 
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