Changing upper gears...

wca_tim

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I want to change the upper gears in late 80s alpha drive I just bought. It currently has a heavy duty 1.32 gear set in it. Do I understand correctly that if I want to install a 1.65 gear set, that I will need to get new bearings that are sized for the other gears? I've got someone good to do it for me since I don't have the shim tool yet, but want to get everything together before I take it out there to him. I'm also running the drive on the boat and don't want to take it off until i'm ready to have the gearsets swapped.

thanks!
 

jtybt

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Re: Changing upper gears...

I'm showing different #'s.



1:32 drive gear bearing 31-35988A 3

driven gear bearing 31-66818A 1

1:65 drive gear bearing 31-35988A 12

driven gear bearing 31-35990A 1


upper bearing 31-61100A 1
 

wca_tim

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Re: Changing upper gears...

I'm showing different #'s.



1:32 drive gear bearing 31-35988A 3

driven gear bearing 31-66818A 1

1:65 drive gear bearing 31-35988A 12

driven gear bearing 31-35990A 1


upper bearing 31-61100A 1

That's what I saw when I looked too. this is actually an alpha ss drive. They were only made with the limited production "heavy duty" gearset in either 1.5 or 1.32. I am thinking that the 1.65 gears (new, hardened) I have will work, but that I'll need to get a different bearing set(s) to go with them.

although it was kind of fun to be cruising down the river at 50 turning 3200 rpms this afternoon... I thought they were 1.5 gears (no markings on outside) and so put a 23" prop on the boat as a starting point.
 

jtybt

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Re: Changing upper gears...

The SS 1.32 shows the same bearings.
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: Changing upper gears...

SS Drives with 1:32 gears are relatively rare & not cheap....
I wouldn't be surprised if you could sell that upper for the price of a brand new upper with the correct ratio all ready installed....;)
 

wca_tim

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Re: Changing upper gears...

SS Drives with 1:32 gears are relatively rare & not cheap....
I wouldn't be surprised if you could sell that upper for the price of a brand new upper with the correct ratio all ready installed....;)

You're right - I hate to admit that I paid about the same as a whole new sei drive plus a new sei upper for this drive... It's in amazingly good shape...

The standard alpha upper is 2 1/2 inches taller than the ss - already makes a huge difference on handling and getting the boat up out of the water. I could pretty easily turn a 23" laser 2 to 5000 rpms with the 1.32 gear.. The other issue is that the ss lower won't bolt up to a standard alpha upper.

The point in doing this is to run enough mechanical reduction to give me the torque to spin 27 - 30" props pretty close to the bottom of the pad at 5300 - 5500 rpms wot... I've got a set of hardened 1.65 gears and need to get the right bearings to go with them so I can cryo treat both before having them replaced in the upper... then the ss drive goes back on with a land and sea sternjack.

Hope that helps with context... Thanks a lot fot the thoughts

I also have a complete sei 1.65 drive, older lower half and new upper half I bought right before finding the ss for sale. and trust me, I'm not throwing the 1.32 gearset away.
 
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