Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

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I have a 6HP Chrysler Model# 64H9E. That's the right model, I noticed previous posts about this model resulted in skeptical answers due to the model missing from certain publications, but this is it. I believe the conclusion was that it's a 1977 or 1979 model.

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I posted about my problems with this motor last year, and let it sit outside over the winter without having found and fixed the problem.
This weekend, I opened it up again, cleaned the carb, made sure I had sparks in the plugs, and changed the fuel. Still didn't start. Invited the neighbor over to tinker with the starter, and we found that the timing wasn't set correctly. We're not pro's so, we just used the "stick-the-screwdriver-into-the-spark-plug-hole-and-turn-the-flywheel-until-the-cylinder-is-almost-all-the-way-out" method. So when the cylinder was almost at its peak, we adjusted the points to be an eye-ball approximation distance of .02" like the etching on the thing said.

Having done that, the motor still didn't budge, and the conclusion was that I probably have poor compression. So I went out and dropped 30$ on a compression guage. Got back, pulled the starter just for fun once, and the motor coughed. Pulled it more and it started for a few seconds. Since that point, it would start and run for a few more seconds every time. So I cleaned the carb again, and it started running and starting pretty consistently.

I tried the compression guage just for fun to see what it would show, but I guess I don't know how to use it right. I screwed it in, and yanked on the starter cable once. The guage showed about 30 psi. The more I pulled the cable after that, the higher the psi's went - up to 100 I think. At which point is the actual compression measured? After the first pull? I would think you have to measure the compression that the cylinder creates by moving from one side to another just once.. But pulling on the starter probably does that more than once. Since it seems like the compression guage is set to just add up the compression with every pull, it's not very helpful.




Here's the meat of the current problem now:
After getting the motor to start and run a little outside, I mounted it on my boat. Started it and ran for a while. I twisted the handle to max RPMs but it would not rev up even half way and was coughing and running inconsistently. At low rpms, it ran very smoothly without interruptions. After a few minutes I noticed smoke/vapor coming out of the powerhead and concluded that the water cooling system isn't working. The motor was very hot, and I noticed that there was pressurized air spewing out of some opening on the back side right into the water, where I would think water would have to come out.

So my question, is my assumption about the broken cooling system correct? And where could I find an impeller for my motor? I've looked around online and there don't seem to be parts for my motor.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

The pistons are so small and the cranking speed is so low when you yank on the cord that it WILL take a good number of pulls to get a correct compression reading. 100 is VERY good for that engine. Even on an electric start engine you crank about 5 turns to get a correct reading.

You can get parts for it at franzmarine@aol.com or (I believe) oldoutboards.com
 

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

I emailed that Franz address and they quoted me $52 for an impeller!!! I'm not paying that much. I got the motor for free and can buy motors like these for 50$ all day long. That's crazy and unfair to be charging so much for such a cheap piece of rubber or plastic just because they know it decides whether my motor will work or not.

The outboards website link doesn't work.

Any other ideas?
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

Ouch! I bitched last time I bought one for either 26 or 36 bucks. Just keep hunting for sites. These are, for the most part, standard parts and sometimes you can find the same piece listed for another piece of equipment. Chrysler did outsource a lot of parts and the same impeller may be used in an old OMC or Merc. Now, you need to be creative in your search. Sorry I can't be more help.
 

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

I just got 2 impellers from discount marine parts in bark river mi. For the 2 with shipping was 44.00 bucks. I ordered on Tuesday and received on Thursday. I have a 1970 6 hp sea king that Chrysler made. Hope this helps
 

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

I just got a chance to actually take the lower unit off and can confirm the impeller is the issue. The "wings" on it were broken off and jammed in the housing.

Anyway, 22 bucks seems steep for a little thing like that. I'm wondering if these things are intercompatible with mercury/johnson or whatever other outboards from that time and even today? How would I know that one part from a mercury motor is the same as a part from a chrysler? I remember reading somewhere before that people have had luck finding parts for their rare chryslers by looking for mercury or evinrude parts. Can anyone help?
Thanks
 

jim j geezer

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

You could always haunt ebay. $22 for an impeller for a 30+ year old outboard ain't too bad.
 

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Re: Chrysler 6HP needs impeller

I've hunted ebay already. That's the most overpriced place for those things actually. They go there for $50. I know $22 isn't too much in the grand scheme of things, but it's the principle of overpaying for such a short-lived piece of simply-engineered rubber. Thing shouldn't be more than a couple of bucks.

So far, I found http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50366&subdeptNum=50367&classNum=50377

but I'm not sure if that will fit.
 
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