Computer prob?

snapperbait

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My computer is shutting it's self off and re-starting every few minutes now... I dunno if its a virus or what.. Windows XP.. scanned with Norton and comes back nuttin, all clean...<br /><br />Started the other day (friday?) and just did it once, today it's done it 6or7 times so far this evening...<br /><br />Something about the "remote procedure call" and initiated by NT AUTHORITY/SYSTEM needing to shut windows down, gives me 60 seconds and then it re-starts itself and few minutes later it does it again... I'M READY WITH THE HAMMER.... I'LL FIX IT FOR SURE! :mad: <br /><br />Any help would be great... :confused:
 

FLATHEAD

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Re: Computer prob?

Your not alone Snapper. Mine is doing the exact same thing. ???????? I am using another computer now till I get this problem solved.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: Computer prob?

snapper, I have someone with a fix for it and will emailyou as soon as I get it.<br /><br />This seems to be an xp problem.<br />Read on.<br />Okay so I'm sitting around today, nothing running but Norton Antivirus, <br />Internet Explorer and Word<br />and all of a sudden windows xp pro spits this error message out at me:<br /><br />This system is shutting down, please save all<br />work in progress and log off...<br />This shutdown was initiated by NT Authority/System<br /><br />Windows must restart because the remote procedure call (RPC) service <br />terminated unexpectedly.<br /><br />Generic Host Process for Win32 Services has encountered a problem and needs <br />to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.<br /><br />szAppName : svchost.exe szAppVer : 5.1.2600.0 szModName : unknown<br />szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : 00000000<br /><br />C:\DOCUME~1\greg\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3.tmp.dir00\svchost.exe.mdmp<br />C:\DOCUME~1\greg\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3.tmp.dir00\appcompat.txt<br /><br />Now every time I log on, I get the above error message within a matter of <br />minutes.<br /><br />I checked the RPC service and it tells me that the RPC is has been "started" <br />and it is running automatically.<br /><br />I had previously turned off the messanger service and thought that could be <br />a problem so I turned it back on, but that didn't help things.<br /><br />Any suggestions?<br /><br />__________________________________________________<br />Response:<br />hi :<br /><br />this happened because the system services on windows xp has finished<br />suddenly .<br /><br />the solution :<br />reinstall windows xp (update instalation)<br />reinstall norton antivirus <br />reinstall internet explorer before update installation of windows xp . <br /><br />sincerely<br />winziped
 

snapperbait

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Re: Computer prob?

EXACT PROBLEM...This system is shutting down, please save all<br />work in progress and log off...<br />This shutdown was initiated by NT Authority/System<br /><br />Windows must restart because the remote procedure call (RPC) service <br />terminated unexpectedly.<br /><br />
Generic Host Process for Win32 Services has encountered a problem and needs <br />to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.<br />
I got that too! Something funky going on here me thinks :confused: <br /><br />Will attempt yer fix..
 

OBJ

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Re: Computer prob?

I got the same darn thing. Even my Mailing dohickey is out. I can't mail nothin' to NOBODY. Went in and re-installed Explorer and then went to Microsoft site and downloaded latest updates. So far so good. Now I got to worry about the dang Incredimail thingy or she herself will be a mean person if'n she can't send any mail to her friends.<br /><br />Thanks to SBN for the fix on the origninal problem. Seems to be working....knock on wood.
 

bubbakat

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Re: Computer prob?

help sbn them darn alluns got me again<br />
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rage

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Re: Computer prob?

STOP USING WINBLOWS . I feel better now. But seriously Win XP has some serious flaws in it and should not be run without all patches and updates. When will people learn that even computers need to be maintained.
 

bubbakat

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Re: Computer prob?

well rage with AUTOMATIC UPDATES[/B I don't think that is the problem<br /><br />
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Homerr

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I run XP with NO problems. Best Win-blows system I've ran yet. <br /><br />I turn the auto-update garbage OFF.<br />It breaks things! I also disable the system restore...It slows things down.<br /><br />My video drivers for example...I like to use custom drivers. <br />WIndows XP auto-update came along one day and busted my system by installing its "official passed-test" drivers. Screwed it all up. No games would work right...nothing!<br />Had to re-install my original drivers.<br /><br />It done a similar thing with my Sound-Blaster.<br /><br />Just because there is a 'recommended' update...Doesn't mean you have to install it.<br /><br />Just read carefully and only install if you think you really need it.<br /><br />If it ain't broke..don't fix it!<br /><br />My 2 cents.<br /><br />H.
 

Ralph 123

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No matter how you do it, either through autoupdate or through the windows update site, you should always download and update all microsoft critical updates as these are security related updates<br /><br />Every one should:<br /><br />1) be using a firewall or XPs built in firewall<br />2) use antivirus protection (such as Norton) and update their virus definitions often. eMail protection should be turned on<br />3) Buy a good rollback program such as Goback (formally from Roxio now owned by Symantec) Rollback software allows you to return your system to a previously known good state with a press of the spacebar. <br />4) Backup your data files (My Docs, email, etc) often to a CD or to another machine. Programs can be reinstalled but the data you created sometimes can't be replaced.<br /><br />As usual, my .02
 

wikelam

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Re: Computer prob?

I got a Management Science In Information Systems and a Management Science In Computer Systems degree in college. I am working on my Masters in Business Administration now and I am constantly working with computers. This is a bug in the NT system. Have encountered it many of times. I prefer the older operating systems such as windows 98.(less bugs) computers are machines, machines will break down, just like boats and cars. It is the price we pay for the convience of the computers. :)
 

Ralph 123

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Re: Computer prob?

W32.Blaster.Worm <br />Discovered on: August 11, 2003 <br />Last Updated on: August 11, 2003 04:38:47 PM <br /><br />W32.Blaster.Worm is a worm that will exploit the DCOM RPC vulnerability (described in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-026) using TCP port 135. It will attempt to download and run the file Msblast.exe.<br /><br />When W32.Blaster.Worm is executed, it does the following:<br /><br />Creates a Mutex named "BILLY". If the mutex exists, the worm will exit.<br /><br />Adds the value:<br /><br />"windows auto update"="msblast.exe"<br /><br />to the registry key:<br /><br />HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run<br /><br />so that the worm runs when you start Windows.<br /><br />Calculates the IP address, based on the following algorithm, 40% of the time:<br /><br />Host IP: A.B.C.D<br /><br />sets D equal to 0.<br /><br />if C > 20, will subtract a random value less than 20.<br /><br />Once calculated it will start attempting to exploit the computer based on A.B.C.0 and count up.<br /><br />NOTE: This means the Local Subnet will become saturated with port 135 requests prior to exiting the local subnet.<br /><br />Calculates the IP address, based on many random numbers, 60% of the time:<br /><br />A.B.C.D<br /><br />set D equal to 0.<br /><br />sets A, B, and C to random values between 0 and 255.<br /><br />Sends data on TCP port 135 that may exploit the DCOM RPC vulnerabilty to allow the following actions to occur on the vulnerable computer:<br /><br />Create a hidden Cmd.exe remote shell that will listen on TCP port 4444.<br /><br />NOTE: Due to the randomness with how it constructs the exploit data, it may cause computers to crash if it sends incorrect data.<br /><br />Listens on UDP port 69. When it recieves a request, it will send back the Msblast.exe binary.<br /><br />Sends the commands to the remote computer to connect back to the infected host and download and run the Msblast.exe.<br /><br />If the current month is after August, or if the current date is after the 15th it will perform a denial of service on "windowsupdate.com"<br /><br />With the current logic, the worm will activate the Denial of Service attack on the 16th of this month, and continue until the end of the year.<br /><br />The worm contains the following text which is never displayed:<br /><br />I just want to say LOVE YOU SAN!!<br />billy gates why do you make this possible ? Stop making money and fix your software!!
 

snapperbait

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I think I beat this worm thing... Time will tell I guess..<br /><br />Downloaded all the updates I wus missing.. Took two hours.. :eek: <br /><br />A big "Thank you", Ralph.. :D
 

Spidybot

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Re: Computer prob?

Wikelam,<br /><br />So you prefer the old (from DOS!) kernel running under win98 over the NT-kernel running under Win NT, Win2K, Win2k3 and XP?<br /><br />The old kernel, from when the first ever Windows was made as a graphic lid on top of DOS, is still mainly the same and it (with it's DOS backwards compability) is no good in modern computing environments. <br /><br />I do respect your educational levels but against experience and TCO analyse's since 1983, on computers running various DOS versions, OS/2, Windows (the lot) and UNIX I cannot agree.<br /><br />In our organisation, running subnets in 50 countries (3000 servers) with plenty various setups and systems, we have tested and found good only Windows 2000 and the upcoming 2003. XP showed problems (in this environment) that Microsoft couldn't solve. UNIX is a different story, in more ways.<br /><br />The elsewhere mentioned advice on not having to install each and every update the minute it is released, makes a lot of sense.<br /><br />AntiVirus is a must (and it must be updated). Depending on your internet access, a Firewall (hard- or software) should be installed. <br /><br />To rescue yourself, a reliable roll-back or Ghost/Image should be made (and updated after each major change on the pc), when the PC is working without problems. For safer data storage a second harddisk should be installed (or the harddisk should be parted (logically)) and data files + email should be kept on this 'drive'. In case of a total disaster you could restore your PC to the C-drive and still have personal files & mail.<br /><br />Finally I'd like to point out, that it is impossible to put all the golden nuggets in one simple guide as any computer setup should be designed to meet the needs of the user. A lot of people might end up with the same but it should be considered before deciding on a purchase.
 
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