E90TLES 1990 Evinrude 90HP won't turn over

interalian

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Did you ever measure voltage at the main starter terminal while trying to crank it? Or at the battery? Or...
 

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No. I need to invest in a volt meter also. I know what you're thinkin...This guy is a piece of work...(laughing) stop scolding me. I'm traveling blind here. Making more work than is needed...
 
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No, not laughing. I just hate seeing parts thrown at a problem without diagnosis. One bad cable or connection would be revealed using a meter.

As for 'throwing parts at the problem', I even experienced that with a BMW stealership a number of years ago. My '91 M5 would flood out if I shut it down and tried to restart after 5 minutes to an hour. Cold starts were good, warm starts were good after an hour. Took it to the dealer and they said the injectors were leaking and wanted $2000 to replace them. I said no way to that, and continued troubleshooting myself. Turned out the problem was a split diaphragm on the fuel pressure regulator which let fuel under pressure into the intake manifold through its vacuum line, flooding the engine. One of the stealership's diagnosis of fuel injection problems, especially if condemning injectors, should have been to test fuel pressure. Doing so would have required removing the vacuum line from the pressure regulator. When I pulled the vacuum line off, fuel sprayed out. I called the dealer on their flawed diagnosis and they said "we would have refunded your money and put the old injectors back if that didn't cure it". BS, said I - you would have eventually found the regulator problem, replaced it, and said it was the injectors AND the regulator. Stealer also wanted $325 for the regulator, and I found an OEM replacement for $95.
 

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My charger only kicks out 200 cranking amps when turned on full. Not enough I'm told.
 

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Bendix clutch could be slipping.
I can't quite make it out or hear it in the wobbly video but mine does the same thing to a lesser extent and it's definitely the bendix slipping.
Did the new starter come with a new bendix?

It's unlikely to be the solenoid simply because with multiple tries you would expect to get a good spin up every now & then.
Changing the solenoid may well 'fix' it because you could inadvertently correct a high resistance connection along the way.

Now while it's failing is the perfect time to check the system with a voltmeter to find the real fault, I'd do it before fitting the solenoid because an inadvertent fix will probably come back & bite you.
 

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Bendix doesn't look to be slipping - the nut on top appears to be running at the same speed as the gear. Got your voltmeter yet?
 

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No. I'm going to take that marine battery down to autozone and have it bench tested then pop across the parking lot to Wally World (my most humble place of employment) and get a voltmeter.
 

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Ok. The battery is junk. charged it almost 3 hours and it won't even register a 12 volt charge. But I did get a new volt meter.
 

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Shine up all the connections with emery paper or sandpaper. When you install the new battery, be sure to tighten the terminals securely too. If you have wingnuts, use pliers to give them more torque. Loose bolts kill rectifiers apparently, as well as cause hard starting.
 

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Thanks I will. It's gonna be awhile. Money is really tight right now.
 

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Ok. Got a stronger battery from our Durango. Turned over nice and strong. New battery did the trick. Which I already knew.
 

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Does that mean you need another battery for the Chevy Silverado as well?
FWIW the V4 recommended minimum is only 360 CCA, not a big battery by today's standards.
 
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