Ethanol vs older outboard motors

[tx1961whaler]

Re: Ethanol vs older outboard motors

MTBE is banned in Fla, so there should not be an issue.

 

[ondarvr]

Re: Ethanol vs older outboard motors

Did FL recently ban it?

I ask that because when I was active in these discussions a year or so ago FL was discussing a ban, but it hadn't happened yet.

There is no great reason to have ethanol in our gas...other than to put $$ in the pockets of.....never mind, I don't want into get into that part of it.

But I can say from decades of using it-its not the evil monster most new comers think it is, while it has some issues you may need to watch after, most of us here run it without a real concern. Places that are forced to switch to it normally have MTBE around during the transition and this can cause some real issues, but locations that have used it for a long time don't experience these same problems.

 

[Mi duckdown]

Re: Ethanol vs older outboard motors

My 1963 10 hp kief has never had the carbs rebuilt and runs like a raped ape to this day.????

 

[outboardsusa]

I have a 59 Johnson and a 67 Evinrude, I have always run non-ethanol gas in them unless I buy ethanol fuel by accident, it has gotten a lot cheaper than it was. Related item my old metal OMC tank used to rust really bad inside but ever since I've added Quicksilver fuel treatment I have had no rust, only takes a tiny bit, not even rust on the indicator arm and that used to rust real quick

 

[MTboatguy]

Oops, thread is over 4 years old, no posting to old threads...shame, shame, shame...

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Ethanol vs older outboard motors

I do know what I am talking about. It is not misinformation. it is a ridiculous idea to put a food based product in our gas...it reduces fuel mileage and is not helping anything..if its so great then why not run %100..i will tell you why..it runs like crap thats why, most cars can not even run %15 unless it is flex fuel car..get it out of my gas...and tell all the people who will have to have their EFI fuel systems cleaned this year when they go to use their boats and they do not run right. Ethanol gas has no where near the stability of %100 gas even with stability additives...food has no place in my gas. here is just one article proving that ethanol cannot be piped.. http://dailyreckoning.com/investing-in-ethanol/
so maybe you should research your facts before accusing someone else of giving misinformation! you can google it and find out I KNOW what I am talking about. I am tired of having to subsidize with my tax dollars putting crap in my gas. google the MPG results also..here I will help you out.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/news/ethanol/overview/index.htm

I find humor in your assertions sir. Cars can run on 100% ethanol and are doing it every day. Ever made a trip to Brazil?? the article you reference has no date and is full of inaccuracies and really has no bearing on this discussion because it is an investment document directed toward folks wanting to invest in ethanol production. As for subsidizing ethanol with your tax dollars, you should be more interested in the many other wasteful government programs. Just google Government Grants sometime and you will quickly forget about ethanol. I happen to drive an Impala (flex fuel) that has about 1/3 of its total miles (currently 104,000) driven on E85 (85% ethanol). The car performs better on E85 because of the 104 octane so timing is automatically advanced. Yes - fuel economy is reduced a bit but here in the Midwest, I pay anywhere from 40 cents to a buck a gallon less for E85 so it is well to my advantage to use it. I have zero issues with that car in those 104,000 miles. My GMC has 136,000 and has lived on E10 it's entire life. Again, zero issues. The point being missed is that ethanol blended fuel was NEVER intended to be a replacement for regular fuel in this country -- but rather an alternative. The only consistent issue with E10 in marine fuel is in engines and fuel systems that were not designed for it. But all that's needed is to replace the rubber parts of the fuel system and go boating. Discussions about clogged fuel systems after switching, while true in some cases, is merely an indication the system was gunked up before using E10. It was only a matter of time before that gunk created a problem even though E10 was not used. Ethanol is a excellent fuel system cleaner. Understand that and you may be able to get over the misinformation here. As for not piping ethanol, that is true -- but only if you are talking about 100% ethanol as it leaves the plant. As for going stale in a week, also preposterous. Up here in the tundra my boats and collector cars sit for six months of the year with E10 in the tank and they fire off just fine. Unscrupulous service shops tend to prey on the gullible marine customer.

 

[southkogs]

Best to leave 4 year old arguments alone. Let's be done here y'all.