Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

[kevinstan]

Hello everyone! I have already been reading the forums for a while now since I have been working on the motor - but I have one problem that I cannot solve and now I am completely stuck. It started with the first day I got the motor. I thought that the screw on top allowed me to remove the top cover but I was wrong. As I undid the screw on top I heard the entire rewind starter spring unwravel. Since it undid from the inside at first, I never saw how it was attached on the inside. I have purchased a new one since the old one was rusted, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how it goes back inside and attaches. I have searched high and low for at least a picture or some help in the shop manuals and no luck. I am really hoping that someone else has the same engine and can be really detailed to help me out so I can get this back together sometime today. Pictures would be really cool, but any help at all would also be really cool. I need to know exactly how and where this thing connects to go back on.

It is the Evinrude E2RCRS 2 HP outboard. I believe its a 1984 model.

Thank you everyone in advance!

 

[Daviet]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Yes, it's a 1984.
Does this help you any?
http://www.ishopmarine.com/ishop/js...CatFilter=BRP&eCatSupFldr=supplier-100-005-EJ

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Your manual starter would be similar to the old style "over the flywheel type" so hopefully the following is of some help to you.

(Manual Starter Assembly)
(This pertains to the type of Manual Starter Housing that sits over top of the flywheel)
(J. Reeves)

Lay the manual starter housing upside down on the workbench.

Wind the spring "counter clockwise" in your hands so that you can lay it into the housing, having the outer spring end hooked over the retaining pin. Make sure the spring is in there properly (You do not want it to fly out of there).

Holding the spring down, with pliers carefully bend about 3" or 4" (more or less) on the inner portion of the spring in towards the center of the housing. This will allow the pulley pin to enter the retaining hole at the end of the spring properly.

Lay the pulley down over the spring, making sure that the pin on the pulley is secured to the retaining hole on the end of the spring. Install the spindle (center bearing gizzmo), bolt, nut, etc, whatever your particular manual starter may use.

The cord (nylon) should be roughly 72" long. Have a figure 8 knot in one end. Heat the other end so that you could form a point on it, wiping it with a rag when it's burning or hot to a melting point.

Now, with the starter housing still upside down, keeping a firm grip on that starter housing and also the pulley, start winding the pulley in the normal counter clockwise direction. Wind it as far as it will go, then carefully let it back off until the starter pulley cord hole is aligned with the housing cord outlet.

Hold the pulley there and insert the cord in through the inside of the pulley and out through the starter housing. Pull the cord through completely and get a good grip on it. Now let the pulley retract the cord, but hold onto the cord (don't let it fly in there).

If it's obvious that the cord is too long, figuring what will be needed within the handle, shorten it as needed.

Pull the cord out so that about two feet of the cord is exposed. Tie a slip knot so that the cord can't retract back.

Insert the cord into the handle and secure as needed, then release the slip knot allowing the cord to be withdrawn fully. That's all there is to it..

 

[kevinstan]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Daviet: That diagram is what I have looked at 100 times over - the problem is that I am unsure where to hook the actual spring itself to make it work. I don't see anything on the inside that it hooks to. I need some more descriptive info to be able to put it back in. Both ends of the spring have to hook somewhere and I need to find out where.

Joe: Thank you for the descriptive explination, but I am still really confused. You say hook it to the retaining pin. Where is that on the motor? One end of the spring has a hook like a letter J, and the other end is a really tight wound up circle. I cannot figure out where these ends hook to to make the spring work.

Thank you guys for the replies, but I am still lost. I am an amateur engine person trying to figure out this small motor to get it running. Keep the help coming - anything is better than nothing. Thank you!

 

[kevinstan]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Also I forgot to mention - there is no housing for the spring. That is something that is throwing me off. There is some way it hooks between the top hood, and the pull rope holder. There is nothing else I see that it would attach to.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

I suggest you print out Davie's diagram and make sure you have all the needed parts.

Have the hood (housing) and parts on your workbench. On many small hp models, the outer coil portion of the spring is simply retained by a slot in the spring retaining portion of the housing so that it cannot be pulled inside. If so, place the outer portion of the spring there.

The inner "J" looking end grabs into the weird looking center portion of the rope pulley.

 

[kevinstan]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Joe: Thank you again for the quick reply. I am still trying to figure this out 100% before I try at it again. on the inside of the hood (the housing) there is a small ridgeline that makes up a circle. Is this where the spring will be wound into ? The ridge is not deep enough to cover the thickness of the spring, so it will make the spring sit between the hood and the rope pulley. I see now where on the pulley the J end grabs, but I still need to figure out the wound up circle end. I am concerned that the spring sitting between the hood housing and the rope pulley with the one screw in the top to hold it will make it so tight it will not be able to be pulled. Thanks again for the help.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

The area that the spring lays in....... look closely at the containment wall of that area. There is one area that has a gap whereas the spring can lay in it with the coiled end of it being outside of the "wall".

If the spring worked okay previously, the height of it is okay. The center spindle that the main screw goes into is a set height which will prevent the pulley from being jammed tight.

 

[kevinstan]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

So does the entire spring go into the circular walled area? it is a rather small circle for the large spring. I am afraid also that the spring will have no room to "expand" to work and pull the rope back. Again, the circular walled area is really more of just a line in the top of the engine cover. Its not anything that will really "hold" the spring, maybe something more of a guideline to go by to place the spring. Just looking at it though it doesn't seem like it would work... I could be wrong....

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Okay, what I've been explaining is a mechanic's shortcut. Send me a private message with your email address and I'll send you the OMC service manual instructions (actual page) which go into detail with the proper instructions.

Edited 08/19/12 - 13:14hrs..... Email address received, file sent.

 

[vesna]

Re: Evinrude 2 HP E2RCRS Rewind Starter Spring install help

Okay, what I've been explaining is a mechanic's shortcut. Send me a private message with your email address and I'll send you the OMC service manual instructions (actual page) which go into detail with the proper instructions.

Edited 08/19/12 - 13:14hrs..... Email address received, file sent.

 

[vesna]

Please send me the file-I'm having the same problem-vesna

 

[vesna]

Please send me the file-I'm having the same problem-vesna

 

[racerone]

This was 10 years ago.------Doubt JR will reply !

 

[vesna]

Worth a chance.... I didn't notice the date