evinrude big twin 40 1968 never used

Tim Frank

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my friend you never asked me how it was stored granted i never advised apart from stored in a garage.
i said i had picked the engine up,
this engine was the property of my grandfather and i can remember it being in his garage from a very early age i was born in 68 my friend,
no body but nobody was allowed to go near the thing when we were kids
my mother tells me (my grandfathers daughter)that he bought it with the intention of taking his grand kids on a boat that he was going to purchase
my grand mother who is still living put her foot down and had said no way that would ever happen (saftey reasons)and my father who is now also dead had said the same,therefore their was a huge family row all those years ago and i would expect allot of money in that day spent.
i have had several boats since the age of 20 and been to sea with merchant navy i am a registered seaman only to the value of AB may i add
and this motor was left to me in my pappas will
he did always like the last word
so my friend the motor has never been run in
please don't tell me it is not NOS i know that it is
any good advice without judgmental experts would be appreciated
i have a passion for this motor sentimentally
all good advice will be considered
i am sorry that i did not let you know the history
i now look forward to your reply and anyone else who can help me get this motor doing what it should have done 44 years ago
please dont think i am being arrogant as i dont intend to be .
are their any real enthusiasts on here that can help
this is important to me
kind regards derek

OK, let's try this.

Given the advice that has been offered so far, what is your current plan to recommission the motor?
 

TN-25

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Wow, that motor does look brand new! If you are going to use it, do pay attention to what others are saying about fuel lines & impeller especially. The impeller will certainly have taken a set at least, and possibly be brittle after all these decades. That would mean the impeller would self-destruct, sending bits of rubber into all the cooling passages, lines and water jackets. That in turn could cause overheating or a hot spot that could warp the head or otherwise damage the motor, and that would be a real shame. Besides, impellers are designed to be a consumable item that should be replaced ever couple of years to a max of 10 years. Also the fuel lines are not ethanol-tolerant. Unless you are fortunate enough to be in one of the few places in North America that offers ethanol-free gas, those brand new but aged old lines will deteriorate internally, sending bits of rubber into the virgin carburetor causing all kinds of unnecessary problems.

In post #9 you posted 5 pictures. In the first picture there is a red sticker on the cowl. That sticker was present on new OMC motors of the era and it was to advise the operator to double up on oil for the first couple of tanks of fuel. Newly machined surfaces need to wear in and until they do, they generate extra friction and heat. Because of that you should run 24:1 for the first 2 tankfulls, varying the load and speed. Avoid full throttle for the first 30 minutes of operation, but you can run it up after that time for brief periods to help seat the rings. Just avoid sustained full throttle after that time, but it is actually good to touch on full throttle for short bursts. After a couple of hours, maybe the first 4 to 6 hours you can run the motor however you like.

I would also suggest you take lots of hi-res pictures of your motor and tank before putting it into service. I know that Peter McDowell at North York Marine does not have the tank decals for the Evinrude tanks that new. He might be forever in your debt if you contact him with some clear, measurable shots of the tank. I sent him a set of the very last brand new decals for the 1971 Evinrude Lightwin 4-horse motors that BRP had in the system so he could reproduce a perfect set from them. I also grabbed the last set of replacement decals for the metal 3 U.S.gallon (2? Imperial) tanks. What I ended up with were OMC decals, and 1 or the 2 in the set was damaged while stored on the dealer's shelf. I just need to find it in order to get that one reproduced.

In order to preserve the excellent condition I would also carefully wax the exterior of that motor fully before it hits the water. Score!
 

derek1810

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my friend buddy you are superb
i have the original tank supplied with the motor in A1 ++++ CONDITION
now i am starting to believe in forum sites
i have never had reason to use them in the past
i am in scotland and really appreciate your input i am going to read it again
this motor has gota run and i am sure it will
infact i know it will
a friend said to me i may have to re-gen the magneto ??
do you know anything of this procedure if it exists ??
thankyou greatly kind regards derek
 

derek1810

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tim frank
frankly i have not decided on this as yet , i will continue to gather information and double check if not treble or quadruple check it one thing i do know is that i will be doing it myself as a mark of respect to my pappa,evinrude,and the model, then thier is myself and the particular engine/motor after all we were born in the same year
P.S. my sister was born in 66 so the old man had a cpl of years to think of his intentions ,,,,, i have loads of time and should this engine run i will make sure its arround for my kids .... kids
i look forward to your reply
then the legacy lives on
kind regards derek
 

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nice old motor! i think all the advice given in this thread is good advice. you should really start with a compression test, as it looks as tho the motor sat in an unheated space and the rings may be stuck a bit. ( may need a soak with a good penetrant). as mentioned, an impeller is a must. also as mentioned ,change the gear oil and washers.....just cheap insurance. fuel lines next...more cheap insurance. then if it were me....id have a stand built by this time and the motor would get a try in a barrel. but be prepared to replace the coils and plug wires, and maybe condensers. the points are probably in need of a good cleaning as well. are you located in north america?....or the other side of the pond?
 

1946Zephyr

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Not only has that motor been run, but it's been to the salty coast several times. I see a lot of corrosion under the paint around the lower shroud and on the transome clamps. Anyone who knows how to take care of a motor can keep one looking that good for many years. Don't get me wrong though, it is a beauty, but I can see use on it.
 

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Scotland! Wow! I'd love to know how the motor got over there. When your friend said "re-gen the magneto" I'm assuming that's a bit of Scottish/British slang for inspecting/rebuilding the ignition (aka magneto). This usually means replacing the points & condensers, spark plug wires and coils. Not to worry, it's an easy enough job, once you get the flywheel off. Because the motor is so "new" the coils are almost certainly original. All vintage OMC (Johnson/Evinrude) ignition coils failed in time. Thankfully, the replacement coils are 1000 times better and will last forever. You can everything you need right here at iboats for about $20 US each. Here's a great link that can walk you through an entire rebuild. The link is for a 3 hp, but all OMC motors of this era use the much loved "universal magneto", so once you can fix a 3 hp you can fix a 10 hp, 20 hp, 30 hp on up.

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/columns/max/07/index.htm

http://www.outboard-boat-motor-repa...on 3 HP 1952-1967 Ignition System Tune-up.htm
 

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fishing isn't called fishing when you catch is it ?? don't we go fishing to catch after that we start fishing again ??
i think my friend you only go fishing to catch as do all of us but wee only catch wen we are fishing
we catch less than we fish
i am in scotland my friend
hows your fishing in canada, salmon run on river tay scotland has started so i belive some fishermen are also catchers lol
thanks for your input and belive it or not love the catching and fishing when i am there
kind regards derek
 

nwcove

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Scotland! Wow! I'd love to know how the motor got over there. When your friend said "re-gen the magneto" I'm assuming that's a bit of Scottish/British slang for inspecting/rebuilding the ignition (aka magneto). This usually means replacing the points & condensers, spark plug wires and coils. Not to worry, it's an easy enough job, once you get the flywheel off. Because the motor is so "new" the coils are almost certainly original. All vintage OMC (Johnson/Evinrude) ignition coils failed in time. Thankfully, the replacement coils are 1000 times better and will last forever. You can everything you need right here at iboats for about $20 US each. Here's a great link that can walk you through an entire rebuild. The link is for a 3 hp, but all OMC motors of this era use the much loved "universal magneto", so once you can fix a 3 hp you can fix a 10 hp, 20 hp, 30 hp on up.

sorry for asking the ops location.....im guilty of skimming through the post!! did see mention of a "torch", and wasnt sure if it referred to a flashlight or an oxy/acet .
i did notice the paint bubbling in areas, but thats not necessarily from use. ( but should be looked after before it becomes a big issue). being from " new scotland", i see the effects of the salt air on mechanical things all the time.

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/columns/max/07/index.htm

http://www.outboard-boat-motor-repa...on 3 HP 1952-1967 Ignition System Tune-up.htm
sorry for asking the ops location.....im guilty of skimming through the post!! did see mention of a "torch", and wasnt sure if it referred to a flashlight or an oxy/acet .
i did notice the paint bubbling in areas, but thats not necessarily from use. ( but should be looked after before it becomes a big issue). being from " new scotland", i see the effects of the salt air on mechanical things all the time.
 

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hi kafa03
no sorry about our scottish slang lol
my friend said that the magneto may have to be re-magnatised after such a long period of being stored ??
could the flywheel lose its magnetism ??
 

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I see. Yes, flywheels can loose their magnetism over time, but it's rare. The easiest way to check is to remove the flywheel, then take a large screwdriver and see if the magnet will hold it firmly in place, if so, then it's probably ok. If not, then it's easiest to simply buy a replacement flywheel, unless you have access to the proper equipment to re-magnetize (re-magnatise :) ) it. I've never done it before personally, and I believe the equipment is getting hard to find, on this side of the pond any way.
 

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torch / flashlight sorry for the language barrier lol
why do you call it a flashlight when it is a torch (old roman means of light an fire ) now battery opperated cheers buddy
 

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fishing isn't called fishing when you catch is it ?? don't we go fishing to catch after that we start fishing again ??
i think my friend you only go fishing to catch as do all of us but wee only catch wen we are fishing
we catch less than we fish
i am in scotland my friend
hows your fishing in canada, salmon run on river tay scotland has started so i belive some fishermen are also catchers lol
thanks for your input and belive it or not love the catching and fishing when i am there
kind regards derek

cant interest you in a british seagull...or three..or five?? ;)
 

derek1810

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everyone it is 23.22 in scotland now
thanks for all advice please feel free to leave more i will look at it in the am
again thankyou very much to all that have posted i have learnt allot tonight /day where you are
please leave a response but please read thread before doing so
good luck on yor next trip out
look forward to reading your posts in the morning
now 0000 here
 

derek1810

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sorry time warp its now 2330 night all
post me
 

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How's things going with your motor?

I have the same model and finally got it going after working on it for some time. I read your thread while researching the BigTwins, it's a great story and I've often wondered how it was coming along.

Hope all is well...

BigJay
 

jay_merrill

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By the pics, I don't think the motor is NOS either - it looks more like it was rarely used and then put up for storage. That said, it appears to be in great shape.

I concur with others that you will probably have to replace the coils and impeller at a minimum. The fuel pump diaphragm is another item that I would suspect to be ready for replacement. And, as stated, the fuel lines need to be replaced to permit use of "corn squeezins" (gasoline with alcohol in it).
 

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Judging by the original paper tags on the lower unit of that motor I would say it has not actually been run in water since being crated & shipped to the dealer. Now it looks like it has seen a lot of humidity from decades of hot & cold cycles in an unheated garage. Given enough time and inattention you will see rust. Periodic sprays of storage oil would have been a great thing. I wonder if the piston rings & cylinder bores are rusty from the unheated storage conditions over the decades? It would be worth it to investigate before firing it up; in fact there are numerous things that should be done prior to start-up. What a nice motor though! Or in conversational Scottish, "Awk wee, it's a bonnie one!"

I notice that your motor is a manual start. You will need valor to start it, but at least since it is a manual start version it comes factory equipped with a decompressor.

Take a look at the attached picture of a brand new 1970 Johnson 33, noting the paper tags to proect it during shipping within its crate. Like yours, it is a manual start version. Hmmm, perhaps the original purchaser was saving face at not being able to pull-start their new motor...
 

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