Fiberglass repair and temperature

bigredinohio

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Re: Fiberglass repair and temperature

If you read MSDS's you will get the impression that virtually everything is toxic and should be avoided?and in a way they should be.

Since I've worked in the composites industry for about 40 years, I do have some experience with these products and right now I work for a company that manufactures polyesters.

Styrene odor, which is much of the "smell" that people complain about, is something you should limit your contact with, but it can be detected by your nose at very low concentrations. It can easily be detected at levels far below what's allowed in the workplace and these levels are based on what a person can be in contact with on a daily basis. So just because you can smell it, doesn't mean you're being exposed to harmful levels.

Styrene (polyesters), unlike other chemicals in the coatings industry don't have the problem of people becoming sensitized and then having serious health complications from brief or incidental contact at a later date like some types of paints and epoxies do.

As I said before, in 40+ years I?ve never met anyone that has had health related issues from polyesters and that covers thousands of people (there must be some people out there though). Yet I know many people that have problems related to paints and epoxy. So when someone puts polyesters in the same or worse class than some epoxies I feel it can be very misleading.

I couldn't agree with you more on this!
 

andgott

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Re: Fiberglass repair and temperature

Well I do plan on taking all necesary precautions no matter what I work with. But man you guys are freaking me out!!!:eek:.....lol

As long as you take the proper precautions, You'll be fine with either type. I never said that Epoxy was 'safe', or even safer. It has it's hazards, for sure, especially if you are unlucky enough to be one of the few that develops a sensitivity to it.

But it also has a LOT of great qualities to it, And I'd hate to see them overlooked because someone thinks that they are 'safer' using polyester.
 

Bronc Rider

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Re: Fiberglass repair and temperature

As long as you take the proper precautions, You'll be fine with either type. I never said that Epoxy was 'safe', or even safer. It has it's hazards, for sure, especially if you are unlucky enough to be one of the few that develops a sensitivity to it.

But it also has a LOT of great qualities to it, And I'd hate to see them overlooked because someone thinks that they are 'safer' using polyester.
Polyester is safer. I have also worked in the coatings industry for a while and haven?t met someone that had developed health issues like you find with epoxy. Many moons ago, we would work without respirators or tyvek suits also. I?m not saying polyester is safe but, it is safer than epoxy.
 

andgott

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Re: Fiberglass repair and temperature

There is no way to classify Polyester as being 'Safer' than epoxy- The hazards are different, and require different precautions.

The main hazard from Epoxy, as previously stated, comes from sensitivity issues related to skin contact with uncured resin and/or hardener. But, Epoxies do not contain VOC's, and generally do not present respiratory hazards.

You can continue to argue, or you can read the facts- Read articles like this-

http://www.acmanet.org/cm/1006/feature_a1006.cfm

From the American Composites Manufacturers association... Or dozens of others like it out there. No, Epoxy is not 'safe', but neither is polyester- And there is no basis for calling polyester 'safer' than epoxy.
 
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