Finally back!

plywoody

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Well, what did I miss? I've spent almost the entire last month trying to get a plywood mill going in Northern Michigan, and fighting with the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources securing a wood supply, so I suspect I will be a touch docile for a little bit, at least
 

FLATHEAD

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Welcome back Plywoody. You might as well jump right in here and take a look at Djohns post dated April 28. I think you will get a kick out of it. :)
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Welcome back Plywoody. Wondered what happened to you.......SS
 

mellowyellow

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not the same around here without you stirrin'<br />the soup Ply. we know where to go for our<br />plywood now too :D need about 36SQ of 3/4 t/g<br />for my roof.... pretty short ride from bflo.<br />to you through Canada (you can really fly)<br />good luck with the new biz!<br />M.Y.
 

plywoody

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Actually, we have a customer in Buffalo! Or a suburb of Buffalo called Tonawanda, or somesuch. Forks Lumber typically carries a bunch of our plywood, but the mill has been down a couple of years, and we are just restarting it
 

62_Kiwi

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Welcome back Plywoody. I always presumed your name meant you had a plywood boat (or maybe you do?).
 

plywoody

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I used to have a plywood boat. built it myself. actually built several of them, and modified the design and kept the last one for many many years. It was actually a great boat--13 and a 1/2 feet, weighed about 350 pounds. Oak keel, Alaskan Yellow cedar ribs, frame, and transom, and 3/8" mahogany marine plywood bottom and 1/4" sides and deck. And fiberglassed glassed the bottom several times.<br />Originally had a 1956 30 hp Johnson on it, but wanted more speed so I put an old V-4 Evinrude 50 hp on it. The motor weighed almost as much as the boat did! That old motor had some power, though. Could pull two skiers on single skis from deep water starts easily, and if you got the boat on a plow and gunned it, I think the whole boat left the water for a moment.<br />It would go over 40 mph, and at the time it was the fastest boat on Sunlight Beach on the westside of Whidbey Island in Puget Sound! Finally went back to a 25 Johnson, and in college in Bellingham, Wa, kept my roomates and their parents and many different friends supplied with Dungeness crab, searun cutthroat trout, and salmon caught off Lummi Island. For a price, of course.<br /><br />Ah, Nostalgia!<br /><br />I now have a 17 foot Crestliner aluminum with a 2 cyl 50 hp Johnson. It's not very new, but it sure runs great, a ton less maintenance, and still catches lots of fish.<br /><br />But that old plywood boat was a dandy!
 

Skinnywater

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As one might say with Rush Limbaugh.<br />Mega dittos, welcome back.<br /><br />So many positive things have happened with the country since you've been gone. :D
 

plywoody

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Positive things?<br /><br />Please tell me! I've been out of touch!<br /><br />Let's see. The major fighting phase of the war in Iraq is over, and as all predicted it was a relatively easy run-over of a weak country. So much for the contention that Iraq was an imminent threat.<br />And so much for the contention that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction at the ready, for he neither used any, nor can we find any.<br />So we are left with the notion that this was to "liberate" the Iraqi people. The verdict is still out on that one. We appear to be telling the Iraqis that they can have any government they want, as long as it is what we want them to have.<br /><br />Kind of like Henry Ford saying you could have any color you wanted, as long as it was black...<br /><br />And we seemed to have left the era of "political correctness" and entered the era of "patriotic correctness". The Dixie Chicks, among others, get villified and an organized campaign (which thankfully appears to be unsuccessful) to destroy them, all for the cardinal sin of having and voicing an opinion.<br /><br />Now there is no doubt that Saddam was/is a bad guy. No question. There are lots of bad guys in this world. However this preemptive attack on his regime is a radical departure from anything this country has ever done in the past, and should be debated. Where do we go next, and what are the criteria we use to jusitify overthrowing governments? And what exactly will success look like in Iraq?<br /><br />This is a time for real, rationed debate, and not a time for stifling opinions in some sort of McCarthyesque zeal to destroy detractors. This is serious business.<br /><br />Oh, and I almost forgot. The economy is continuing to flounder with higher unemployment rates, and the president's plan to drive up the debt by eliminating the dividend tax simply won't create any jobs, and just drive up the deficit ever more. Ah, yes. It is a double tax. There are lots of double taxes. How many times do you pay sales tax on that used car you buy? Let's have tax reform, if necessary. And let's cut taxes where they might do some good.<br /><br />Ah, yes, all the positives. Fill me in. I must have missed them!
 

Hooty

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Gosh plywoody,<br /><br />Have you considered Canada or maybe Uganda?<br /><br />Hooty
 

sloopy

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Hi plywoody! you should open a mill up in WV! This last rain storm nocked so many trees down...<br /><br />Welcome back!!!
 

plywoody

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Let's see. Nope, I have not considered Uganda, and although I spend a lot of time in Canada, I still prefer the US of A. What's your point?<br /><br />I think working to make this a better, more tolerant place is a pretty noble goal. Differences of opinion and open debate is what makes democracy work. Stifling debate, and castigating dissenters is, to me, decidedly un-American.<br /><br />And Sloopy, we have in fact checked out mills in South Carolina. I prefer the more moderate climes of the north, I think.
 

NOSLEEP

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Good to see you back plywood. :) <br />Now I have someone to disagree with again. :p :D
 

Hooty

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The point being, that all you who are unhappy, disgruntled and miserable living in this country should pack your as* up and go somewhere else. Maybe Belgium or how about Yemen?<br /><br />Hooty
 

12Footer

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Welcome back, Plywoody. Kinda anxious to make up for lost time, aint ya? You shouldn't fight with Ontario..You may have trouble there in the future.
 

SCO

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It's been entirely too civil in the ntdwb section for a while Plywoody, so welcome back. I'll just tackle one, the chicks. They spoke their mind, and many of us spoke ours. That's the way it is supposed to work. Do you think that in the perfect democracy we all politely and respectfully listen to the contrary opinion then raise our hands for the rebuttal, while congratulating the adverse party for having the guts to express their anti american sentiments? How did you come down on the South African Boycott a few years back?
 

Skinnywater

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:D :D Excellent!<br /><br />plywoody wrote:<br />"The major fighting phase of the war in Iraq is over, and as all predicted it was a relatively easy run-over of a weak country."<br /><br />Except that most of what you predicted was wrong.<br />And what you didn't predict wrong was a major concern to you. You should be utterly delighted the war was as short, clean and professional as was demonstrated. Instead I'm senseing your disapointment. :confused: <br /><br />"So much for the contention that Iraq was an imminent threat."<br /><br />So terrible saddistic dictators with cleverly hidden WMD's still isn't a concern of yours. OK, no problem. There is enough of us to cover your hiney.<br /><br />"And so much for the contention that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction at the ready, for he neither used any, nor can we find any."<br /><br />Ole Saddam has really done a number to you hasn't he? He's got you hooked, line and sinker. <br />Psst, we all know the Kurds died from bad goat milk. ;) <br /><br />"So we are left with the notion that this was to "liberate" the Iraqi people. The verdict is still out on that one."<br /><br />That's right, the verdict is still out. As much as your hoping something will go wrong, I'd not hold my breath. <br />Ever since thier liberation I've been hearing more gimme, gimme, gimme, then a rainbow coalition rally.<br />It won't be long before thier oil money will start paying the Iraqi people back. Then they will all have standards of livings like the Kuwaiti's.<br /><br /> "We appear to be telling the Iraqis that they can have any government they want, as long as it is what we want them to have."<br /><br />No, no, no. :) Ain't gonna let you get away with that anymore. Where are you hearing this? You can quote anyone you like. However, if it isn't from President Bush, Rumsfeld, or any other from the immediate administration, your info is bogus.<br /><br />"And we seemed to have left the era of "political correctness" and entered the era of "patriotic correctness"."<br /><br />Well that's definately a positive development!<br /><br /> "The Dixie Chicks, among others, get villified and an organized campaign (which thankfully appears to be unsuccessful) to destroy them, all for the cardinal sin of having and voicing an opinion."<br /><br />This is definately a load of bullgarbiscablona.<br />The Dixie Chicks and all the others have had thier say some have said what they want several times. Some have been given multiple forums to speak. This includes the Dixie Chicks. What they and you don't seem to accept is that people have the right to disagree with them! Just like the protesters. They have the right to protest, but they can't stop traffic, business and my rights in the process! <br />This is the old liberal bait and switch. If you can't understand me this time, your hurting.<br /><br />"sort of McCarthyesque zeal"<br /><br />Here it is again. Label it something bad, repeat it over and over, and turn fiction into fact. Spin Clinton style. :eek: <br /><br />"The economy is continuing to flounder with higher unemployment rates"<br /><br />Well you can blame the President for 9/11, but I'm not. Just what the heck do you expect our economy to do after all that has happend since 9/11. Common!, lets get real here. Quit towing your party line and use a little common sence here! <br />The economy was already cooling during the last administration. You really don't think that 9/11 punched our economy on the chin?<br /><br />"eliminating the dividend tax simply won't create any jobs, and just drive up the deficit ever more. Ah, yes. It is a double tax. There are lots of double taxes. How many times do you pay sales tax on that used car you buy? Let's have tax reform, if necessary. And let's cut taxes where they might do some good."<br /><br />Another fact instead of your party line. <br />I'm middle income. I've noticed a substantial decrease in my tax liabily for the second year now.<br />President Bush has already lowered many taxes. He's trying to lower several more.<br />Please don't deny me (my money)lower taxes. If your having a problem with lower taxes, take that money you would give up to taxes and give it to Clinton library or something.<br /><br />"Ah, yes, all the positives. Fill me in. I must have missed them!"<br /><br />It's a frame of mind. Logic, common sense and acceptance to other point of views. It's been many decades since all branches of our government has been right of center. It's naturally gonna take some time. Common man give it a chance. :rolleyes:
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Amen Skinny, could not have said it any better myself.<br /><br />I'm just glad someone did before I had to. :D
 
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