fogging oil substitute

jheron

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Re: fogging oil substitute

ohhh.... 15w40 or the like ... I get ya ;) :) <br />Jon
 

crazy charlie

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Re: fogging oil substitute

Most marinas here on Long Island get there Marvel Mystery oil by the barrel and use it for fogging .I have used it for fogging for years and it works great!!! One of the ways that you know it is working is when you start the motor after sitting for 5-6 months and the exhaust looks like a crop duster and fogs the neighborhood.I have recently switched to a combo of MMO in one hand and fogging oil in the other because my current motors dont want to bog to a stall with only 1 of the products going into the carb at a time.By the way Sea Foam Deep creep has fogging instructions on the can so the answer to the previous question about Deep creep is YES.With fogging oil being as cheap as it is $2.99 to $3.99 a can on sale,why would one look for an alternative????? Unless you are looking to do a boatyard full of motors of course.Charlie
 

LubeDude

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Sea foam and MMO would be a great choice IMHO, as it would be like a four or five month decarb soak. :D
 

TheOilDoc

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Fogging oil will have special desiccants and sticky corrosion inhibitors in it that diesel oil concoctions and other snake oils can't provide.
 

BillP

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Take a cap full of Marvel Mystery Oil and set it on your workbench to evaporate for a year or two. Watch what happens. I've posted this before but here it is again. I mothballed approx 25 small "display" engines with MMO full strength and it locked EVERY one of them up. The engines were all 100% disassembled and cleaned before treating with the MMO. If used without diluting in gas it leaves a hard residue that glues everything together like it was welded. I used to always keep a gallon of MMO in my shop. Now I consider it as being the "Original Snake Oil"...and good for wiping tools down, etc.<br /><br />I "fog" my outboards with double oil in the gas when leaving idle for 6 months or so. I shut them down by full choking to make sure there is a good coating.
 

hudsonriver

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As long as were on the subject of winterizing, aside of adding fuel stabilizer in fuel tank, should fuel be drained from engine. This is for 6 month stoarage. (ob 115 4 stoke '05')How critical is it?
 

LubeDude

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Actually a tough question for me, I never do it, because I pump the bulb about every month or so just to make sure the carbs dont dry out, and I dont use a fuel stablizer either. Now if I wasnt able to do that like if the boat was stored to far away, Im not sure what I would do. Probably would use a fuel stablizer and not worry about it. Died up fuel is not a good thing, but dried up gaskets are not good either. :confused:
 

TheOilDoc

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Originally posted by hudsonriver:<br /> As long as were on the subject of winterizing, aside of adding fuel stabilizer in fuel tank, should fuel be drained from engine. This is for 6 month stoarage. (ob 115 4 stoke '05')How critical is it?
Your EFI engine requres that you drain the vapor seperator. Port side of engine, little brass screw near lower tube of intake. No need to completely remove the screw.
 

XcellR8

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Originally posted by mrloring:<br /> I use fogging oil in any engine that will not be use for winter/summer. Lawnmower, weed wacker, outboard and snow blower. Probably don't have to, but it makes me feel better :D and a $5 can of oil goes a long way. I also use stabilizer, but thats another thread.
Is it alright to use fogging oil designed for snowmobiles in my 2-stroke Mercury outboard? Just wondering if it makes a difference whether the motor being stored is exposed to summer temps or - 30 C?
 

dajohnson53

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An interesting question for sure. I'm interested in answers... It's been a couple of days though, so I'm guessing nobody knows. this post of mine, although I have nothing much to add, will bump it up and also get me further along to Rear Admiral! <br /><br />My first impression would be that it wouldn't matter - that they're the same. My second guess is that it might say on the can? My third thought is that when in doubt, spend the $3 and buy a can designated for outboards - it's so cheap anyway. But I am still curious about your question.
 

jheron

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A 2 stroke is a 2 stroke is a 2 stroke when it comes to the insides so yes ANY 2 stroke fogging oil will work as well as the next. <br />Regards Jon
 

XcellR8

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Originally posted by jheron:<br /> A 2 stroke is a 2 stroke is a 2 stroke when it comes to the insides so yes ANY 2 stroke fogging oil will work as well as the next. <br />Regards Jon
The temperature and environmental conditions that the motor is being stored at doesn't matter then?
 

Laddies

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Well here I am late with my two cents worth, back in the early 60s we started to fog engines that we needed to tear down for maintance during the winter or spring with many differant types and brands of oils we did this over about a ten year period. Early on in the experiment our local Gulf Oil dist. gave us some anti/sling oil to try, it was retained very well in the 2 cycle bearings and rings, also coated the valve stems on 4 cycles well. The following fall we ordered a case of it to use on our rental motors 7.5 to 115HP. and were suprized the oil turned out to be bar and chain oil. We have used many other manufactures bar and chain oil over the last 40 years and never had a stuck valve or rust and corrosion on any engine we have used in. I am not telling anyone to use it or any other product without testing them for them selves, just letting you know what we have used for 40+ years--Bob
 
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