force prop question

Shifflett115

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Hey guys,i have a 1985 19ft bayliner cuddy with a force 125 outboard on it(white one).it has a 13 1/8 / 15pitch aluminum prop on it with no cup.would a prop with a cup in it (a prop from a 1989 force 125),would this prop give me more top end performance or any other performance. Any advise would be greatly appriciated thanks guys
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: force prop question

Without knowing your current RPM at wide open throttle and without knowing your top speed, it is difficult to tell.

Knowing that engine though, I would say that a 15 pitch on a 19 foot boat is too little unless you are carrying a heavy load. 17 pitch should be more like it, but of course, remember that I am dealing without starting numbers.

You want that engine to run in the 4500-5500 RPM range and the higher end is better.

Generally, a cup in the prop will reduce your WOT RPM by about 2-400 RPM. In the same pitch, it will not give more speed but will give better holding and less cavitation in sharp turns. Sometimes, you can run a cupped prop trimmed higher. Because of that, you do get a little more bow lift and a little more speed.---MAYBE!

I have a mental problem with the black flared "semi-cleaver" aluminum prop. I just don't like them. To me, they seem to bog down the engine. I prefer the older Force props or even Chrysler props. Third choice is the Michigan stainless cupped props. In my mind these seem to perform better. Stainless usually gives 200-400 RPM more than the equivalent aluminum prop. Usually I use either a 17 pitch cupped or a 19 pitch uncupped.

I recently rebuilt a 125 for a guy. He had it on a 18 foot bass boat and with the prop he had on--either 13 X 15 or 17 pitch, he did 40 top speed at 6000 RPM. I switched him to a Chrysler 13 X 19 stainless uncupped and his speed went up to 47 at around 5500 RPM

BUT: You need a tach and speedometer or GPS to play with props.

See my private message to you. Hmmmm! can't seem to send you a PM. If you are intersted in a stainless prop PM me.

BTW: The avatar in the upper port corner is my son piloting a 15 foot Glastron with a 1976 Chrysler 90 just south of Turkey point.
 
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john from md

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Re: force prop question

Hello Frank,

I just found this post and thought I would ask. Are you talking about Turkey Point in the Chesapeake Bay?

John from MD
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: force prop question

Is there any other? Yep the same Turkey point that John Waters used to film parts of "Crybaby" with Johnny Depp.

I try to get down there a couple of times a season. Pick up the Nor' Easter It will have info on a party in early June at the Havre de Grace flats near Fishing Battery Light. Hundreds of boats will be there if they still have it.

If you see a 21 foot Manatee cuddy with the name "Amanda Ford" and the classiest mermaid decal you have ever seen on the engine hood, come over and say hello
 
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