fuel saver - any one tried it?

Ralph 123

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Re: fuel saver - any one tried it?

Ok, for a GM (and I think it's a standard but can't confirm) It's 9K ohm for 32, 12K ohm for 23, etc. The lower the resistance the lower the temp. If you have the Chilton's manual for your vehicle you can look it up.<br /> <br />Find your IAT (Intake Air Temp) sensor. On my GM it is on the hose going from the air filter to the throttle body. Disconnect your battery. Disconnect the connector from the IAT. Bend the resistor leads and fit it into the IAT connector so your computer reads that resistor rather than the sensor. Put some tape over it to prevent moisture from getting in there. Reconnect your battery and go for a ride. You should immediately notice the difference.
 

Boomyal

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Re: fuel saver - any one tried it?

Gee Whiz! I just went to the tornadao website to see what it was all about. Lo and behold, I have one of those dang things installed in my 1994 454 Suburban and I didn't even know it. I bought the Big Sub with 17k mi on it. I guess that must explain why I get 9-11 mpg. ;)
 

CRT Skiff Crafter

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Thanks Ralph. I'm gonna start fooling around with some of this stuff now that I don't have to work on the boat anymore - for a while.<br /><br />Hey Boomyal. You've got about 94 more cubes than my 5.9 and your mileage is about the same as mine!<br />That's disgusting! I'll bet you can pull a house off of it's foundation with that rig, given a long enough chain! :cool: <br /><br />Regards, crt.
 

Boomyal

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Yeah CSC but it's still a prehistoric boat anchor. Ford used multiport fuel injection 10 years b4 GM saw fit to toss out their electronic carbuerator(TBI). Then when they finally went to it (Vortec) they tried to make it seem like it was some new, revolutionary system that they concocted.. Trouble was that Ford didn't make a 'suburban'. So I was stuck with this 7.8:1 statically compressed behemouth that can't even flash it's highbeams at you with the headlights off. Otherwise, with a Gail Banks $1400 header and exhaust system, it's pretty Kewl.<br /><br />Hey! I thought you were going looking for Gordon Lightfoot today?
 

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Hello<br /> wow this has been the best post ever. I am surprised no one mentioned loosening the drive belts or flipping the flame arrester. yes the engine is a heat pump but it is more an air pump.<br /> volumetric efficency is the key. move it in and out with minimal amounts of time spent static. growing up in the 60's and 70's and driving old w30-442's monte carlos a few cutlass's with 455 a few 454 chevelles we tried all kinds of nutty things to get more miles per gallon of siphoned gas. I would doubt anyones claim to 27% increase. unless maybe they were going to tow it for me. and as far as hybrids go its a waste. my dad got 56 MPG out of his chevy sprint 3cyl 5 sp for almost 200,000 miles then the carb died and the replacement was a different manufacture and the best then was abouit 47 MPG. and it went coast to coast.<br /> Good luck and keep posting and if you do try the tornado just make sure your flame arrestor will still fit :)
 

CRT Skiff Crafter

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Hey Boomyal. I'll tell you this, prehistoric or not, I'd really dig having the 454 Suburban! I just can't warm up to my Dodge Ram, especially at the pumps! Clever reference to Lightfoot by the way! :cool: As it turned out, I had some stuff pop up at home that had to be dealt with and all of the rain made tomorrow seem like a better day. I guess there were water spouts on Erie and I'll leave that action to The Edmond Fitzgerald! <br /><br />Howdy rodbolt. I can attest to the mileage on the Sprint. I had one and have since had 3 Geo Metro's. The current one (1995) has 143K miles and can still get close to 50 if you drive it right. I wish I could pull my boat with it.<br /><br />Regards, crt.
 

Boomyal

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CSC, your wish could be fulfilled with a push of a button. Send that Ram a packin and strap one of these on for size. <br /><br />http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=6155&item=24 33503175<br /><br />They do drive nice and the 97's and up have the multiport FI. They probably get 14-15 on the hwy.<br /><br />and heck I'd even donate my Tornado to the cause.<br />(this is, after all, a "fuel saving device" thread) ;)
 

Spidybot

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The orignal post is from affa in Norway. Being in the neigbourhood (Denmark), I'd like to point out that most of the magic stuff we hear about in this respect is 'tested and certified' in the US.<br />Warranties given are most often not valid in our countries due to vast customer protections schemes.<br /><br />The Danish consumer organisations have tested such 'wonder-devices' several times and the conclusion is: 'When you fit one of these you pay more attention to driving manners and any fuel saving would be possible even without the device'.<br /><br />KN claim this or that power gain but this may be a different story, depending on the setup in question. In general, performance filters help your engine to do what it is supposed to.<br /><br />If you start out with a Big Block, not the latest design, with badly designed air filter and weird hose layouts, it is no big magic to improve results simply by allowing the thing to run under best possible conditions. Simply help the engine to do as it best can.<br /><br />Car makers are very interested in optimizing mpg. In a near future they won't be allowed to sell their products if they don't achieve certain results.<br /><br />It is, however, not done easily and definately not by adding a clip-on gizmo. <br /><br />As stated in this (extremely funny and entertaining) thread we are dealing with physics. <br /><br />Many manufacturers are experimenting with all kinds of setups. Volvo used a low-charge turbo and saw good results in mpg although the max. hp didn't improve much. <br /><br />Personally I've redesigned the air intake to make it cooler (cold air allows for better filling), replaced the catalyst with a 400-cell hi-perf, run the car on a dyno to have the efi program optimized for my actual car (4-cyl, 2-litre, 16-valve no turbo). According to the dyno report the max. hp went from 167 to 177.5, torque increased some 15%, and ofcourse the mgp is accordingly WORSE if I make use of this extra power. IF I drive with caution the improved efficency can be converted to fuel saving.<br /><br />Notice that cooling the intake results in a higher efficiency!<br /><br />My other car (4x4, 4-cyl HDI turbo diesel with intercooler) is 100% original (still under warranty). It produces 110 hp, 250nm @ 1750rpm and makes 16.6 km per litre (39,425 mpg) calculated from 60.000 km (37500 miles) of real-life driving. In this case the intercooler serves mainly to remove the heat added to the intake air by the extremely hot turbo.<br /><br />On one of my previous boats with I/O I fitted a hose between the engine airfilter's intake and a vent opening to make it run on cold sea-air instead of the pretty warm air in the engine compartment. Performed better and improved mpg (although no scientific work was performed to state the actual result). <br /><br />Mpg in Scandinavia is a BIG issue as 95 octane RON gas costs some $4.90 (per US gallon), diesel some $3.98 (give and take some between the countries).
 
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