Gasoline

bonzoso38

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Can anyone tell me if there is a chance that a 4 year old, full tank of non-ethanoled and stabilized gas is still any good? Thanks for your experiences/ and or input
 
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brielly

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Re: Gasoline

Ive has 2 and 3 year old gas be ok but 4 is probably pushing it. I'd drain it and run it in my lawnmower diluted with good gas. I wouldn't chance running it in my boat even if it burns ok in the mower.
 

Bondo

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Re: Gasoline

Can anyone tell me if there is a chance that a 4 year old, full tank of non-ethanoled and stabilized gas is still any good? Thanks for your experiences/ and or input

Ayuh,... Smell it...

If it still Smells like gasoline, Run it...

If Not, pump it out...
 

veritas honus

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Re: Gasoline

It'll smell of, or like turpentine if it's bad. The worse it's gone, the more like turpentine it'll smell.
 

1fast6

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Re: Gasoline

If it's stale it will stink real bad. If it smells ok I would run about 1/2 out and refill with 93 octane
 

j_k_bisson

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Well if you look at this site and the fact that 1/3 of all issues is over fuel related problems, then I would not use it in my boat. You'll probably be doing a carb and other repairs shortly down the road if you do. Also it will give you false impression on how the motor/boat is running.

Drain it and mix it wil new stuff for your lawn mower. That is cheaper to fix/replace than your boat motor. Use new clean gas.
 

paultjohnson

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Re: Gasoline

Ive gotten 4 years out of the same mix...Non-oxy and stabilizer, In my 77 Olds cutlass. Now its been almost 5 but havnt checked or started it this year. Last year I got it out of the storage place and drove it home 20 miles without issue... soooo I will be interested what the fuel is like this yr...
 

RogersJetboat454

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Re: Gasoline

If it's stale it will stink real bad. If it smells ok I would run about 1/2 out and refill with 93 octane

93 octane will do noting but cost more money.
He should fill up with what ever the manufacturer recommends (most likely 87).
 

paultjohnson

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93 octane will do noting but cost more money.
He should fill up with what ever the manufacturer recommends (most likely 87).

It we were talking about fresh gas , then i think you are correct. However i believe fuel loses octane with age. Theoretically , if you had 5 gal of old fuel, that say the octane had to dropped 80 octane, and you added 5 gal of 87octane, Its still pretty low at 83,5 octane. if you added 5 gal of 93 octane, in theory it would then average out to 86.5. The way I see it any how...:confused::):D
 

wifisher

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Re: Gasoline

It we were talking about fresh gas , then i think you are correct. However i believe fuel loses octane with age. Theoretically , if you had 5 gal of old fuel, that say the octane had to dropped 80 octane, and you added 5 gal of 87octane, Its still pretty low at 83,5 octane. if you added 5 gal of 93 octane, in theory it would then average out to 86.5. The way I see it any how...:confused::):D

Why do you believe that old fuel loses octane? The reason that I ask is, I have heard this many times, but have never heard any real data to back it up. Does anybody know of this other than old wives tales, internet gossip, etc?
 

northernmerc

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Re: Gasoline

At many of the stations here in Canada, only the premium fuel is free of ethanol. For engines that don't receive much use or where the fuel may sit in the tank for an extended period of time, I like to use premium gas. Ethanol blends do not appear to keep as long as pure gasoline. Using premium hasn't caused problems for me, and I prefer to spend a little extra for premium and not have to use fuel stabilizers or throw old fuel away.
 

RIDEPATE

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Re: Gasoline

Ayuh.............Put in in your pump-sprayer and kill some weeds..................It will still do that.
 

j_martin

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Re: Gasoline

The fuel loses 2 things with age.
1. The Volatile top, very low octane low flash point component that gets the fire going when sparked a little.
2. Short chain molecules----originally created by cracking long chain polymers into shorter chains, tend to recombine with time, forming long chains (varnish, etc). This is the item that fuel stabilizer addresses.

The third item that occurs with ethanol laced fuels is that they will absorb moisture and separate out a lower layer of ethanol-water mix. The interface between them will form some pretty nasty sludges. The water doesn't burn well, and the gasoline that's left is lower in octane because much of the octane boost was gained from ethanol.

If it smells decent, probably neither has occurred. The tighter the container, the less storage deterioration will occur.

If at all possible, I keep ethanol away from any engine that is not used daily. I'll run gasohol all summer in my conversion van, but when winter rears it's ugly head, I run a tank of non-alcohol gas through it, then fill it up with the expensive stuff for the winter. I keep it full, because it is also my emergency escape the city van.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Gasoline

It really depends upon your engine. Older carbureted outboards are very tolerant of what they burn. I have burned gas well over four years old that was sitting out in the weather and smelled like paint thinner. I mixed it with fresh and the engine ran happily. I would NOT have done that with a fuel injected engine or even a newer outboard.
 

bonzoso38

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Re: Gasoline

thanks for the input. If it smells o.k. and will start, I think I run it out a bit and add fresh high octane. I think I'll take the chance on this older motor (95 Force). At the price of gas today this stuff was a real bargain!
 
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