generator???

[stugots]

ok I recently realized my "converter" switch does NOT convert 12v to 110v so basically my 110v outlets do not work other then under shore power, (notr sure why I thought thats EXACTLY what the converter did) so I need to get a not too expensive generator that can be used very often while moving and while fishing, as well as for overnights, what do you guys would be a good gen for me?

the boat is a 28' wellcraft monte carlo, 4 outlets, hot water heater, water pressure, A/C and heater unit (all in one) and I have a 22" TV and a ps3 on that boat, as well as a microwave and stove.

im not looking to spend alot of money but need a gen for sure.

Thanks

 

[H20Rat]

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You need to be VERY careful using a generator on a boat... Easy way to die of carbon monoxide. As well as the fact it can't be used below decks, needs to be out in the open.

I'm guessing the converter was a 12v to 120v INVERTER at one point.

 

[Bondo]

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im not looking to spend alot of money but need a gen for sure.

Ayuh,.... Unless you hang a little gas portable on the swim platform,...

That's gonna be a Big problem...

 

[wifisher]

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Is there a reason that you so not want to repair the converter/inverter? It would probably be cheaper than a genset, and more convenient if you are not using a lot of power.

As far as generators go, I have had good luck a the portable honda unit. They are lightweight, easy on gas, and as quiet as you can expect.
Be sure to check the power draw on your water heater and heater/AC if you want the generator to run them. The 2k watt unit (the one I have) is probably not enough to do that. I think they have a 5k watt that may be better to do all that.

A quick google search will tell you more about them.

 

[Don S]

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Converters used to be a fancy name for a battery charger. All that did was charge batteries and run 12V systems off the shore power.
In order to run a generator, you can plug a small generator on the swimstep as mentioned, but you won't be able to run water heaters & such with it.
No matter what kind of generator you get, be sure to install some carbon monoxide detectors in the cabin.

 

[MTboatguy]

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Generators on boats are normally a no no, unless the cabin is specifically designed and vented for that application.

A converter converts 110Vac to 12Vdc or 24Vdc, and inverter inverts 12vdc to 110Vac

Based on what you are describing, you will need a good sized balanced generator, they are not cheap, or your going to need to have your inverter repaired or replaced with a unit sufficient enough with clean power to operate your items, either way, it is not going to be cheap..

Just based on your description, your going to need a 7-8,000 watt inverter like they put in the big living sized motor homes..and a good set of batteries that will hold up and be able to be plugged into shore power frequently..

I am suspecting, as with motor homes the 12v switch is actually to be used to convert 110v to 12v when plugged into shore power, not what you were thinking..

 

[Lyle29464]

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An inverter that would operate your equipment would need more battries than you could find space for.

 

[stugots]

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any way I can make that honda, perminant? i like that unit, just going to be hard to use while moving, the kids want to watch tv/dvd in the cab.

 

[MTboatguy]

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If that is the route you choose, you should be able to make it secure, but I would not recommend making it permanent, you need to be able to remove it to service it as well as help prevent theft, no matter what you do, the thieves have already figured out a way to get it.

Being honest with you, you can get a plug in inverter, that will power the DVD and the TV for a pretty reasonable price, I have one that I carry with me on photo trips that will run my DVD player and laptop, in addition to allowing me to charge my camera batteries and use an external hard drive..you might want to look around at the various portable inverters that are now available..

 

[stugots]

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of course i would allow it to be removed to be serviced. how would i pipe out the exhaust? and where should i put it?

 

[MTboatguy]

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Honestly, not being familiar with your particular boat, I can't say, your going to have to find someone that knows the layout of your boat..

 

[steelespike]

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Can't say enough; be sure generator is down wind If on the swim platform with bow into the wind fumes could swirl into the boat as sometimes happens with straight inboards when slowly cruising.

 

[H20Rat]

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of course i would allow it to be removed to be serviced. how would i pipe out the exhaust? and where should i put it?

its a much bigger problem than the exhaust. Your typical honda generator is NOT marine rated. Its going to generate sparks somewhere in the case. If you put that generator into an enclosed compartment, its only a matter of time before you go BOOM. Not if, but when. Doesn't matter if your boat is diesel, as the generator itself still has gasoline.

No matter what you decide, keep this in mind. Under no circumstances do you EVER want a non-marine gasoline generator in an enclosed compartment.

 

[arks]

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Hope you fully understand the implication of smokingcraters post. Gas vapors are heavier than air and will collect in the bilge- until they find an ignition source.
The CO issue is yet another safety concern. PLEASE do your research before buying a generator for your boat!!!!
I installed a brand-new 5KW Kohler marine genset in my Silverton 3 years ago.
It was a complex and expensive project but for me, worth it.
Here's a good installation PDF. I used it when planning my job. Pay particular attention to the introduction.
http://www.northern-lights.com/PDFs/manual_pdfs/IM1000.pdf

 

[stugots]

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wow I had no idea it was this serious, would it be a terrible idea to just stow away (not being used of course) a honda EU2000i and just put it on the deck, hooked to the shore power when its being used?