Gimble bearing grease mistake!

[FatBack]

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Hey Bondo, <br />Capt. Ken figured out what Txboatboy really wants to do. Maybe you will too.

 

[Bondo]

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Well, If txboatboy takes Your Advise, He'll need to Buy, At a Minimun, An Alignment tool, a Slidehammer(with a bearing pulling adpter), a New gimbal bearing(NO, you Can't Clean them,+ they're Usually Destroyed in the removal proccess.), a gimbal gasket set, AND, If he takes your advise about removeing the outdrive(PRYING the Outdrive OFF ???) He Maybe looking at replacing the gimbal housing, or upper case of the outdrive...(NEVER PRY ON A GASKET FACE, Especally an ALUMINUM Housing !!)(If the outdrive is Stuck, A block of wood is held down by the "ears" on the lower part of the gimbal housing, Then the outdrive is lifted,+ dropped onto the wood... This Will Pop the input shaft out of the coupler/ gimbal bearing....)<br /><br />And, Yes, I Believe I fully understand txboatboy's Original Question... Is the White Grease a Problem ?? NO, If you're Extremely Concerned, Pump 20 strokes of what you feel is the Proper grease into it,+ Go Have a Good Time....<br /><br />Flash-point of the Grease ????? If the Heat Gets to the Flash-Point of ANY Grease, The Bearing has been Making ALOT of Noise, For a Long Time... I'd Sooner Think that you Over-tightened that wheelbearing, Back when you were 16 years old....Bad Mechanics Like to Blame "Dumb" parts for their screw-ups.....<br /><br />I think I'd rather spent a weekend Boating, Worrying about my choice of grease, Than spending Several Weeks, Repairing the Damage caused by Your Advice.....

 

[hoot]

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i recently replaced my gimbal bearing after 24 years of summer use. the bellows cracked and water got in the brg. i used all kinds of grease over the 24 years (including P'oil marine syn grease from WM) and did not have a problem. my .02 is that it is not worth the effort to replace the one you lubed. it is important that you do lube it. run it and enjoy. you will have opportunity later to replace the bearing if you keep the boat long enough. bellows never leak sitting in the driveway!

 

[Capt Ken]

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Am I the only one that noticed that Fatback forgot to tell him to put the shifter in forward before removal. Don't forget that speedo hose behind the shifter. Don't need to screw up more. What am I saying, he hasn't screwed up anything "yet". As my pappy use to say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

 

[ODDD1]

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Boy.. is this fun or what?

 

[ODDD1]

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Hey, Bondo..not wantin to smell like a hypocrite...I went an looked...2 kinds of grease [both the cheapo kind]...5 diffrent kinds of beers...

 

[denniz]

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Im with Bondo... Fatback

 

[FatBack]

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Yall Just don't get it. Txboatboy is looking for an excuse to tear into that OD. So let him do IT! He's had that boat just long enough and he's itching.

 

[thompsdw]

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Wow - I stirred up way too much trouble with this thread. <br /><br />I do have one other dumb question. Assuming that I don't want to change the bearing, do I need the alignment tool to drop the drive and inspect the internals. I thought the bell housing controlled the gimbal alignment and you wouldn't have to align unless you change the bearing or relative position of the bell housing? Am I wrong?

 

[dhammann]

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Txboatboy, relax and live...there is not any significant advantages of using a particular type of grease....except in certain applications such as high (or low temperature), extreme pressure (tapered bearings like wheel bearings) or water imersion. None of these apply in your case. The gimble bearing is a common radial ball bearing operating in a cool clean enviroment. Sure, there are slight advantages, but it would take years of data analysis to even notice. Over greasing is much more likely to cause failure as it it can cause the shields and or seals to be pushed out of the outer race. People get hung up on lubrication hype, regardless of what you have heard or read, your gimble bearing is a typical general purpose bearing. What is more critical is your bellows condition...water intrusion will wreck the bearing regardless of grease type. The risk of something going wrong by pulling the outdrive far out weigh the use of not using the recommended lube. Life is short so enjoy your boat

 

[golfer]

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Grease shmeesh....I do agree there are certain greases for certain things. However, I think you should be fine if you merely pump what you think is the right grease in, until most of the other stuff comes out. That is my vote.

 

[Bondo]

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txboatboy,<br />If you want to tear into Any part of your engine/ outdrive unit, Go Buy a Manual..... It'll tell you What is Where, Before you start...<br />The gimbal bearing is aligned to the engine coupler... Pulling the outdrive will Not affect the alignment.... But, Any time the motor is moved, "At All", or the gimbal bearing is serviced, Then the alignment Must be Check,+ Tuned....<br /><br />Go to ebay, or wherever you care to, And Buy a Manual.....

 

[FatBack]

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Bondo read what he, Txboatboy, has said.

 

[Bondo]

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I do have one other dumb question. Assuming that I don't want to change the bearing, do I need the alignment tool to drop the drive and inspect the internals. I thought the bell housing controlled the gimbal alignment and you wouldn't have to align unless you change the bearing or relative position of the bell housing? Am I wrong? <br />To which I reply;<br /> The gimbal bearing is aligned to the engine coupler... Pulling the outdrive will Not affect the alignment.... But, Any time the motor is moved, "At All", or the gimbal bearing is serviced, Then the alignment Must be Check,+ Tuned.... <br />I guess I could have added that,No the Bellhousing has Little or nothing to do with the Gimbal bearing alignment...<br /><br />Of course this is only my Opinion;<br /> If you want to tear into Any part of your engine/ outdrive unit, Go Buy a Manual..... It'll tell you What is Where, Before you start... <br /><br />What did I miss Fatback ????

 

[loadnet]

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I am not a Mercruiser Tech, but Ya have to ask yourself -- is the gimbal bearing making noise with the OD Straight, turned all the way right? turned all the way left?<br /><br />If NOT, and it was - my - boat, I'd lubricate it to death with the correct grease - take it for a spin - lubricate it to death again then just Keep on Trucking!<br /><br />The X-cess grease isn't going to hurt anything at all..<br /><br />(I hate it when I can't remember how to spell a word like that?)

 

[Somethings_Fishy]

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excess

 

[Lou C]

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Yep just get some of the "correct" grease, pump it up and LEAVE THE REST ALONE, it is too easy to screw something else up, and thereby blow the little time left in the boating season!!<br />Removing/replacing an OD unit is not something you want to do for that reason, now if you have run it for 4 seasons and never lubed the u-joints, or you suspect a bellows problem, that's a different problem, but still I would take it so someone who KNOWS how to do it, and pay the man for his time!!!!!