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mscher

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I don't get it.

Why would HF, whose products line is 99.9999999% China made, blatantly violate FTC "country of origin" laws, by showing air hose, saying "made in USA", that isn't?

I would not be a bit surprised a bit, if Goodyear shipped huge spools of air hose, to China, where it is cut, connectors added, packaged, shipped back to the USA and the rest of the world.
 

MTboatguy

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The productivity of this thread as with many Harbor Freight tool threads has gone down in flames. What I don't get is why people keep asking about their stuff, HF has been discussed to death on this system, just do a search for Harbor Freight and you are sure to find the answer to your question. The bottom line, it works for some and don't work for others, I have HF tools that work great, I had HF stuff that is junk, and the Goodyear hoses are terrible for longevity, I will be happy to send my pile to anyone that wants them!
 

JRJ

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This topic pops up from time to time. HF sells a lot of junk but there are also a lot of good values to be found there, especially if you use the coupons.

Some of my favorite items...
http://www.harborfreight.com/five-drawer-service-cart-95272.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-titanium-nitride-coated-high-speed-steel-step-drills-91616.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-gallon-100-psi-oilless-pancake-air-compressor-95275.html (I got it for $30)
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece-professional-screwdriver-set-94607.html (Really nice handles on these!)

Where do you get the coupons?
 

i386

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Where do you get the coupons?

Sometimes I find them in the inserts of the Sunday paper too. The best ones are the 20% off coupons. Sometimes those are in the back of magazines like Popular Science/Popular Mechanics. I am not above whipping my pocket knife out at the barber shop to cut out one of those 20% off coupons either.:D
 
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DJ

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.... and you get what you pay for. I'm still a firm believer in that old saying....... However, nowadays you can by pricey junk too. It's just not as common.....


I didn't say that (get what paid for). I just said, to repeat; We Americans love our stuff and want our stuff-CHEAP!

We're our own worst enemy.
 

waterinthefuel

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I didn't say that (get what paid for). I just said, to repeat; We Americans love our stuff and want our stuff-CHEAP!

We're our own worst enemy.

Well, if you consider people are working longer hours for less money, investments are making 1/5 what they were making 5 years ago (I signed up for a "high yield money market" account at my bank. It was making 5%. Then it went to 4, then 3, then 2, then 1, now its .75%. My high yield account is making less than savings accounts were making 5 years ago) people have no choice, they HAVE to get stuff cheap. Everything costs so much these days and incomes are not going up. Look at gas, damn near 4 bucks a gallon!!!

I'm so damn cheap, I have 2 self propelled lawnmowers, a 16hp riding lawnmower, a 16hp Speedex tractor with hydraulic rear and belly implements, a weedeater and an oiled air compressor, none of which I paid a dime for. They were all old stuff people threw away that I fixed up for little to no expense on my end. I spent more on paint and degreaser than parts to make these items work. Some were working just fine when I received them. There is no way I would have the money to buy all of the items I was given. The rider was probably about 1300 new 14 years ago, the tractor was probably 2500 new 40 years ago, one of the self propelled walk behind mowers was about 300 new 10 years ago and the lawn boy self propelled was probably 280 new about 10-15 years go. The air compressor was a couple of hundred new 25 years ago, but I fixed it up (painted it, changed the compressor oil and installed a high performance air filter for the compressor which was nothing more than a piece of air filter foam left over from an air filter I made for my scooter a few years ago) and it looks brand new now, and works perfectly. The tractor worked perfectly, the guy bought my dads tractor and no longer wanted his so he gave it to me. It worked perfectly and ran absolutely flawlessly the day I got it. It just LOOKED like hell. 200 labor hours and 150 dollars in sandpaper, degreaser, primer, paint, a new hour meter and new decals, and she's looking spiffy!

You wouldn't believe how I come across some of this stuff. For instance, for the weedeater and the Craftsman self propelled mower, my father and I were riding 4 wheelers in the woods and came across them discarded together. They looked like they'd been run over by a car, someone had apparently backed over them. The top of the engine, the plastic, was all cracked and the once straight shaft weedeater could weedeat the side of a building if it wanted to. Well, my uncle had an old engine where the engine was junk but the plastic part on top looked new. It fit mine perfectly. I straightened out the shaft on the weedeater and both are now fully functional, although I don't give the weedeater long as it's a "weedeater" brand and those don't have a great reputation. It's funny how you find old junk. The engine on the mower, once I put a dipstick in it and drained all the water out as it had been raining in the engine, started on the first crank. It continued to blow out water from the breather for almost a half hour. I flushed that oil out and put new in and now it's perfect.

I actually MUCH more enjoy getting something for free and fixing it up, than buying new. That way I feel a personal attachment to the item as I did more than write a check to end up with it. I have personal pride in it. But very little money.
 

mscher

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Maybe we should blame Henry Ford.

He was the first to produce a "cheap" automobile, when all others sold for top dollar. People loved the cheapie Ford and purchased them like crazy, because they could afford one. Ford likely hurt other auto companies business, effecting their employees, also.

I have a HF 3 ton floor jack, that's heavy enough, that you could beat an elephant to death with it (just kidding). I paid $60 for it. An American made jack, will cost $450+ (a lot of which is probably price markup). I could not afford or even justify spending, that much for occasional use floor jack. If I had a pro garage and had the revenue, then that would be a different story and I would get the USA made jack and write it off the taxes. Same as buying snap-on tools, verses craftsman, or evern HF "Pittsburg" brand.

People like HF products, because they give great value for the low price (usually).
 
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DJ

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Most of us live in the US yet don't want to pay each other, for our wages, to make stuff and provide services.

That does not add up to sustainability.

Just a true observation. Shop away!
 

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I didn't say that (get what paid for). I just said, to repeat; We Americans love our stuff and want our stuff-CHEAP!

We're our own worst enemy.

I know, I was saying that. I guess I should have formatted it differently. I agree, we want our stuff cheap. Because the average Joe needs to save wherever he can given the state of the economy. Unfortunately, cheap doesn't usually mean quality. I haven't had much luck with HF. Although, I'm assuming the zip ties I just bought should be fine..........
 

greenbush future

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Living in Michigan and seeing what the auto companies are doing regarding ?American made? would shock many. The rules for putting that stamp ?American Made? on your product has very little to do with were it was made. This is a perfect example of knowing what and who you are buying from and you really need to dig deep to get the truth. Most stuff is imported, then for example, they will drill a hole in it and call it American. But don?t be fooled by what our elected officials and lobbyist have allowed to happen. Made in America isn?t what it says most of the time.
 
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DJ

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The REAL POINT is that: "nobody cares"!

Good/bad. Your personal call.
 
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