have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

[daveisdiving]

have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

they ran fine then sat for winter went to run them both are acting up fuel pumps rebuilt crabs ben redone out drives rebuilt still same problems they idle fine but when u give gas the chug

also how do I tell what yr they are

and can do photos

both were winterized also

 

[oldboat1]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

will need model number for yr. of mfg. -- believe the plate would be inside the pan on the lower left, visible with the hood removed. It sounds like you may have a fuel issue. If running off the same tank, may have old or contaminated gas.

But they haven't sat yet for the winter, right? in Wisconsin? in January? (like your optimism).

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

the guy I bought them from said they ran then put them up for winter then spring came along to get them ready
they acted up so he rebuilt whole lower unit and fuel pump and carbs they still do the same thing but ill attach pic of plate


model 454 HC

serial 3062

 

[oldboat1]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

that would be a '71.

 

[oldboat1]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

not sure I'm getting this. Did you recently test the engines, or are you reporting a problem the prior owner said he had last Spring?

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

yes this is what he had last spring that's why he went and rebuilt everything and they still acted up this yr even after replacing everything so never ran them but im thinking if he left the fuel in the tank and it sat it would cause pore running right ?
also theses have a charging system correct ?

 

[oldboat1]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

when you get around to running them, start with fresh gas and oil. can't help with the charging system question. Some had alternators, some did not (My '72 55hp did not have an alternator. I think Chrysler showed on the chrome piece on the front of the hood if there was an alternator.) Another lister may be able to tell you what to look for under the hood to determine if there is a charging system -- probably some tell-tale wiring coming from under the flywheel.

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

cool sounds good whats the oil fuel mixture for theses motors if you know and whats the best to get

 

[wickware]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

Send pictures with the cover off (from both sides) and we can see if you have charging system or not. Attached is my 1970, 35hp Chrysler that might be the same as your 45hp except piston and cylinder bore (basically and no charging sys).

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

ok pics up loaded it does have yellow wires coming out under the flywheel

 

[wickware]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

The yellow wire is going to your neutral switch, which will not allow the Eng to start unless it is in neutral vs Forward/Reverse. The chart shows yellow is part of the starting sys. Guessing! I would think charging items would be on the list if you had a charging sys (w/o looking at my Clymer manual.

Most of all, I feel I would see something related to charging on that year model as in other Brands. Which I'm not seeing physically or on the chart (Gen, Stator, Etc).

 

[Nordin]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

That engine has magneto ignition system and all magneto engines did not have any charging system.
The engines with battery ign.system and they with magnapower CD ignition had a charging system.

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

so have a at least two battery's on board ?

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

If both engines are on the same boat, then have two batteries. If the engines start easily, a single battery per engine will give you all day starting. Recharge overnight. Since they are magneto ignition, if a battery does go dead, you can rope start them.

 

[wickware]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

My 1970 Chrysler 35hp has always given me 4-5 good fishing trips starting the eng approx 8 starts on a good charged batt. Warm and a good tune it starts easy usually on 1st manual pull (if a 2nd batt is not havdy).

Nordin, Good Info! I helped on another Brand with a Mag Sys about the same year model that had a belt driven Gen. Now I know why I h/n seen a Gen on 35hp-55hp 70's Mag Chrysler Models.

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

cool

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

hears my webpage buissines this is the Harley boat im restoring so motor is going on that

madcity-fibrglass

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

hi thanks for all the help so far now I also have a another Chrysler 45 with a charging system doing the exact same thing
Erratic idle for both and same when running at any speed. Almost like a miss but not a steady rhythm miss.
any idea of date on this one ?
model number is # 457Ha
serial number is # 3662

 

[daveisdiving]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

now is it a force or just Chrysler ? or Chrysler force ?

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: have 2 Chrysler force 45 outboard motor having problem with both doing same thing

Dave: Chrysler bought West Bend in the early 1960s, renamed the engines and redesigned the cowlings to a cleaner look. In the mid 1980s, Chrysler was forced to sell to Brunswick which renamed the engines Force but initially changed nothing but the decals. After two years they changed the cowlings to dark blue, then black. Later on Brunswick and Keikshaefer combined--I don't remember who bought who but I think Brunswick bought out Mercury-- and the engines were modified to include Mercury components.

So, while all the engines are the same, Chrysler is simply Chrysler while early Force engines are Force and later Force engines after about 1994 are sometimes called Mercury Force since they have Mercury ignitions, controls, and lower units.