Help.. New to me Glasscraft, lots of water below decks

[Paterson00]

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[Paterson00]

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Well having the Admiral on board, whatever your choice, is a step in the right direction.

BTW: Pix Pix Pix can't post too many pix

Have a great weekend.......

Any complaints about having too many photo's should be forwarded to this man. I have put up as many as the forum will allow but max size is 2MB so missed quite a few off. Please feel free to pick holes and draw conclusions as you see fit in the vain of constructive critisism. I want a boat which can take my family and freinds out on good days out with no dramas and all of your comments will help towards that, however much I may not like what I am hearing so please help in any way you can. Thanks in advance.. Paul

 

[jbcurt00]

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This pix:

Shows 2 thru hull fittings the lower right one is the drain plug, what is the upper left one next to the fish/depth finder transducer? Does it come thru above the deck on the inside? It looks fairly low to be above the deck, but it appears to have daylight shining thru it.... And it definitely looks too small for a drain plug...

Some of the areas of keel damage & this pix:

Suggest that there needs to be some indepth inspection of the below deck structures & fiberglass integrity. That looks like a lot of fairly substantial cracks for an interior finished surface... Stress, hull flex, water damage can all increase the sizes & amounts of cracking. It may not be as bad as it looks, the rust staining (from exposure to salt water I suspect) certainly may be making the cracks appear worse then they really are.......

If you can gain access to the areas below decks W/out cutting thru the deck, even if you can't see under it, you might be able to reach thru w/ your hand & feel around.

Getting a thorough marine survey from a professional inspector or a qualified marine repair pro would probably be a good idea if you don't want to cut into the boat yourself for an inspection. But they are only making educated assumptions if they can see below decks either. If for any reason you get a feeling or an indication that something is amiss w/ the repair estimate, get multiple estimates. If it sounds like they will be doing a lot of work, and are very inexpensive, you may not want to trust them w/ your boat. Many threads have mentioned paying for moderate to extensive work and finding the work & workmanship were less then they had been lead to believe would occur.

Core sampling the transom may help you decide how to proceed as well. From the inside, drill some 1"+/- deep, 1/4" holes into a few random areas of the transom, high/low/near the motor thru bolts/port & starboard. You DO NOT want to drill completely thru the transom, so mark your drill bit for 1-1 1/4" and only drill that fair in, from the INSIDE.

Generally: Dry light colored shavings are what you want to see. Dark, dry shavings indicate that water has penetrated the hull, and the transom has gotten wet, but it is not yet rotted. Wet, dark shavings are an indication that your transom now resembles mulch, like the pix of the broken transom I posted above....

The knock/knuckle/hammer test is not always 100% accurate either...

I will take all the flak the pix posting gets me

Thanks,

BTW: great pix & there is a 6 pix limit per post, including the smileys

 

[Paterson00]

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Thanks for taking the time to reply in such depth and for having a good look at the photo's.

The hole that you asked about in the first picture is a deck drain, there are one on each side in the transom and they have a well on deck then drain off below deck level. You should be able to just make the well out on other pics so from this info we also know that all of the water coming from teh drain plug would have been coming from the hull and not the deck drain off unless some water was coming from the hull "splash over" from the sea into the recessed area between the chairs and into the cracks etc..

Regards the damage you mentioned, I will be taking it for an inspection when I have the time and money and have discussed it with a repair shop already. They have not yet seen the damage but beleive "without seeing it" that it will be nothing major. I said that I wanted to learn about the repair process so I am better educated when buying boats in the future and also to touch up bumps and scrapes etc and they have said that they are happy for me to help with the repair process and teach me what where and why. I want the recessed area cut back, investigated, any damaged wood replaced and then a good solid layer of glass put over the top and also gel coat I assume. I want it all to be A1 so I have peace of mind when taking the kids out on it. The fact that they are happy to let me help and see exactly what is going on gives me some assurance of their integrity.

I am far too inexperienced to be drilling holes in the transom just yet. Im still not even sure exactly where the transom starts and finishes. Is it the complete rear of the boat? I was suprised to hear that is was that thick anyway. If I did want to attempt that, where would I drill it? Above deck? In the battery area? Also one more question, which part is the bilge? I found my bilge pump and that was underneath the battery under a wooden floor. There was a small amount of water there too so I hooked up the bilge to the battery and pumped it all out then soaked up the remaining water with a cloth so that area is now bone dry ready for the next time it goes into the water, I will know that any water there after will be fresh water since the clean up.

Besides that damage did you see anything else that needed attending to? This picture..



I expected to raise some concearns. If this area is no real concearn, how would I clean it up? Would it be just gel coat over the top then sanded and buffed?

 

[Paterson00]

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Oh one more thing. Is there a better area for me to place my question where it may get more views and more opinions. I would like to get the boat looked at by as many as possible.

 

[jbcurt00]

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It's the what boat title....

Go up to your first original post

Click Edit post

Click Go Advanced

There should be 2 white boxes near the upper left corner of the advanced editing window

The UPPER box is the primary thread title. Just type in a new title, that is more accurate of your thread & plans. It is not really a big deal to not know exactly what model your boat is, they are all made fairly similarly.

Spend some time & come up w/ a new title that reflects your want of opinions about the boat & it's condition. But many may not comment, it is extremely difficult to assess a boats seaworthiness remotely, via the internet w/ limited pix and being unable to actually lay hands on your boat.

New to me Glasscraft seems have a lot of water below decks.... Or something along those lines, and LESS wordy

For now don't worry too much about this anchor rash (maybe?):

It can be dealt w/ after you get the water below decks resolved. But yeah, pretty much, prep & finish as you suggested.... Just need to be sure it hasn't penetrated thru the fiberglass underlying the gelcoat. Looks like you can see some broken glass fibers in the lower part of the damage....

 

[Paterson00]

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Thanks again for your help advice. I am currently working away but Im really keen to get back home and start investigating. I'll let you know how I get on.