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[Shane.Engeland]

Hello.
I stumbled across this board while looking for some general information about my new boat and such, and I would like to see what you think.
As a gift for getting out of the navy, my dad gave me his old boat, and I just picked it up yesterday. All I know for now (Its still to cold this morning to go putzing around the boat) is that it is a farly large fiberglass boat with a 75 hp Johnson hub exhaust (I plan to get more information when it warms up). The thing I love about it is that the boat has a large bench seat for the driver and passenger, so it feels like driving an european car (as the steering wheel is on the right side).
Now, the questions I have are; because the boat has sat for about 4 years, are there any special precations I need to be aware of, other then changing the fuel/oil mix; seeing as how I would like to at least see if it runs before taking it to a lake and looking like an idiot when it dosn't, would you know off the bat if ear-muff type water supplies (for the hose) would work, or would I have to just stick it into a garbage can? Im sorry I don't know most of this already, but I am mostly new to small engines and I am learning as fast as I can.
I know thats a tall and often used story, but I figured that there is no harm in at least putting this here. If more boat/outboard info is needed, I will get it as soon as it gets above...ummmm probobly 30.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: Hi

If it sat for four years with fuel in the tank you have a number of issues to start with. First, remove the spark plugs and try to turn the engine manually to make sure it is not seized. If it is, you now have a decision. Free it and see if it will run, rebuild it, or obtain a different engine. If the engine spins freely, spritz some oil in the cylinders and spin the engine a few times to lubricate things. Drain the fuel because it is very likely contaminated with water and likely won't burn anyway. The carburetors are very likely gummed up because of the untreated fuel that sat in them so rebuild them. Change the fuel filter, lower unit lub, add fresh gas, and new spark plugs. Connect a hose to the muffs and fire it up. Starting procedure is 1) squeeze primer bulb until firm. 2) Raise fast idle lever about 1/3 up. 3) turn the key to start and push it in (activates the primer/choke depending on which you have). When engine fires, Lower the fast idle lever to a comformatable idle. Be ready to push the key in a time or two if the engine begins to die.

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Thanks for the speedy reply. I will write that down ( on a laptop) and get right on that. Also, do I need to know what model it is, or will ear-muffs work regardless? Thanks

 

[ezeke]

Re: Hi

You should find the model number on a 1" X 3" plate on the port transom bracket, or on a aluminum disk on the engine block. This link will help you to identify the age: http://web.archive.org/web/20011223002506/www.evinrude.com/docktalk/modref/jomodyr/JHP75.html

 

[cbavier]

Re: Hi

Welcome to I boats Shane. You will find everyone here eager to help you with any questions you may have. Just be as specific as possible.

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Thanks for the info. I am currently going out to fiddle with it. I was out a little earlier, and was able to turn it (with a little help from a wrench as there is no where to grab it) I already saw that it is a four cylinder(?), and everything on it from the gas line to the plugs seemed fine. I was told that it was complety redone before it was put away, so maybe I am in luck. Now I just need to check the wiring, the carpeting, and get rid of that mouse smell (it was in a farmstead barn with no cats).
Again thanks for the help and not blasting me for not looking at the motor wake-up faq.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Hi

welcome, Shane, to the university of boating. this is the faq section
http://forums.iboats.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31 has many good reads.
especially awakening an outboard, and on page 2 outboard won't start.

if it has thru hub exhaust, the muffs will work fine, but do not leave the motor running, as the have been known to fall off, the dog or kids play with them, and the motor burn up. i have tripped over the hose and knocked them off.

we need the model # so we can help you with the exact motor.

you want to get the boat and motor, stable and safe, before venturing out.

i would follow the following steps as if you just bought the boat.

skip the surveying stuff.

Buying a boat

1st you need to decide what you want to use it for, fishing, cruising, or water sports.

2nd how many people adults, children you want on board of the average outing.

3rd outboard, inboard-outboard, or inboard power plant.

4th Budget, what you want to pay, and what you are willing to pay, when you find
Exactly what you want.

You can hire a marine surveyor, to inspect the boat, or you can do it yourself.

You are mainly looking for soft spots in the deck, transom, cracks, all signs of a rotten, under frame.

The motor should be clean, no spots where the paint is discolored, or pealing from heat, having run hot. Compression should be atleast 100psi, and within 10% of each other,
Spark on all cylinders, good pee stream, check lower unit for water in oil.

The overall condition of the boat will tell you a lot, as to how it has been maintained.

A 30 year old boat motor combo, may be in better condition, than a 3 year old.

there are NO dumb questions on this Forum.

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Wow, thanks for the help. So, if I am reading right, My v4sl-13 is a 61? Jeeze, it dosn't seem that old....
wait, I think I found that number on the boat....I have to go recheck, as looking at pictures from that era of outboards, they look nothing alike.....
Back in a few

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

<,< >,>....yea, its a 61....
.....Well, it has warmed up, time to go to work.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: Hi

Yikes. If it's a 61 V-4, it isn't a through-hub exhaust. Make sure you have the right muffs for it, too.

Those are good engines, but are not thrifty with fuel. In fact they have a very strong thirst for premix, indeed. However, they are quite reliable, and you're likely to have little trouble getting it started, if, as you say, it was gone through before being put away. My father (83 years old) has a 1958 50hp version of that engine, which has passed in and out of his hands twice. The most recent time he acquired it, it had been sitting for four years.

He filled the tank with new fuel, installed a fresh battery in the boat, pumped the bulb, and it fired up in less than 5 seconds. It's still running like a watch. So, I hope you have the same good fortune.

 

[samo_ott]

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Yep, it's a '61. A big ole guy

Looks like this?

old-omc.de/j_1961/seite_04.jpg

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Yep, that would be it.
So, muffs would still work for it?
(I was thinking of a different boat when I said it had a through hub exhaust).
And also, I have a 6.6 gallon tank, what would the oil/gas ratio be?
Thanks

 

[samo_ott]

Re: Hi

Nope, no thru hubs back then. It's 24:1 mix up till 1964 although others opinions may differ.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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24-1, has to be in a big drum. they made a flushette for the but they are like hen's teeth, and the needle. 1/2 the leg submerged. keep the water hose running. they were big ole gas hungry motors. heck of a lot of torque and pull power.

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Thanks alot for the input again. I live out of town, but I plan to go in later today. I will pick up..
1- Waterhose
1- Large trash can/ water drum
3- Bottles of Marine Motor oil
1- Can Carb Cleaner
6.6- Gal. of Gas (Est. $99.95 )

Thanks again, I will write again to tell anyone interested if it runs, and put up some pictures for some before and after action, once I restore it to all its 1960's love and peace glory.

 

[samo_ott]

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You pay $15 for a gallon of gas???? I think I'd get a 5.5 instead of the 75!

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

Not really, just an jab at raising gas prices. Its still around 3.15 here

 

[Shane.Engeland]

Re: Hi

.......I boosted it....
.........Not even a click.....
...........Looks like this may take a while....

 

[samo_ott]

Re: Hi

$3.15 a gallon is good... that's around what it was when I was in the US last month. It's around $4 a US gallon up here

 

[patrick4266]

Re: Hi

he may mean liters are be talking in pounds as i believe england pays a lot more than we do.