Holy cow, it actually started....

Augoose

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Per another post, I have a Johnson or Evinrude outboard that has yet to be identified. It has been sitting outside for at least 5 years but according to the PO, it was running when he parked it. I was doubtful, but there was a bright and shiny new prop on it when I got it, so my thoughts were "who would put a new stainless steel prop on a engine that doesn't run?" This also begs the question - who would by a boat that doesn't run, right? Well I got a trailer, 14' Fiberglass fishing boat, and this "mystery" outboard for $200. Plus it was a co-worker who needed cash. I've since used the boat about a dozen times with a electric trolling motor, so the purchase worked out - it is already worth the $200.

So a few days ago I decided to see if I could get it to start. Tried a couple of pulls and nothing- no big surprise. Today I decided to tackle it again. I cleaned out the gas tank and lines, checked the fuel filter, cleaned the spark plugs and sanded down the points just slightly with some 220 grit, and while they were out, I sprayed some WD-40 inside the cylinders and then with the plugs still out, slowly turned the flywheel to see if there was any resistance - the pistons seemed to move nicely. Since I don't even know what size engine this is, I would have liked to check the plugs gap but I had to leave it and run the gamble.

As I was going through the engine, I noticed that the seal around what appears to be the fuel filter was leaking, so for troubleshooting's sake, I temporarily bypassed it. I then noticed that the tiller handle wouldn't turn. I started taking it apart and also noticed that the kill switch is gone as well - just two wires hanging down. Great. So after taking apart the tiller handle, I noticed that the throttle cable is seized. I then disconnected the other end of the cable and tried to work it forward and back - wouldn't budge. So again, just to troubleshoot, I removed it and just set the throttle by hand.

After about 30 minutes of the wd-40 drying, I put the plugs back in, primed it up with about 15 squeezes of the bulb, and then crossed my fingers. Wouldn't you know it? The darn thing started on the third pull!!! I WAS AMAZED. I quickly killed the engine and ran off to hook a garden hose up the lower unit. I soon got water running and started it up again - after about 3 seconds water started pouring out the (not sure what to call it) back drain at the rear of the engine - so it looks like the water pump is working as well.

Although it ran a little rough (which is to be expected with old plugs and I haven't touched the carb yet) it ran well enough to idle slowly and even engage the lower unit - which also worked.

So I'm tickled pink and happy that it at least started. I now need to find out what engine this is so I can order replacement parts - fuel filter gasket/seal, throttle cable, and a new tiller handle.

Also, I can't seem to get the engine to tilt up. It will lift up a little, maybe about 2-3 inches, and then that's it. I can't see any handle or latch to pull to lift it up - any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Here are some pics so maybe someone can help me identify this thing. I had these pics up on another thread, but they were towards the bottom and likely didn't get any traffic.

Thanks!
 

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jasper60103

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Congrats on getting her started. I know the feeling. It's amazing to see these old motors crank up after being idle so long. I wish you continued luck on your restore.
 

Augoose

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Congrats on getting her started. I know the feeling. It's amazing to see these old motors crank up after being idle so long. I wish you continued luck on your restore.

Thanks!!!
 

jonesg

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Just a wild guess. 1960's 35 hp.
Or could be 1970's but cosmetically abused.
Write down the serial number on the coils and punch it into google.
 

Augoose

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Just a wild guess. 1960's 35 hp.
Or could be 1970's but cosmetically abused.
Write down the serial number on the coils and punch it into google.

I tried to find some numbers and all I could come up with was 398347 on the carb and 333543 on the head.
 

izoomie

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Congratulations, I love finding a deal like that especially when it works out.

For the tilt, can you see a lever close to where it mounts on the transom that may say "run" on it. some of these have a lock to keep it from tiling up when put in reverse. If you move the lever it will "unlock" the tilt.
 

EN2

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Acording to the carb# you posted, I looked it up in the parts book, that carb# goes to 1989 40hp J/E. To tilt pull lever towards you. To front of boat.
 

EN2

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

With some further searching that carb# goes through 1993.
 

Augoose

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Re: Holy cow, it actually started....

Acording to the carb# you posted, I looked it up in the parts book, that carb# goes to 1989 40hp J/E. To tilt pull lever towards you. To front of boat.

Thanks for the research. I can't believe I can't find any other numbers. When I pull that lever it still doesn't let the engine tilt, so I'm assuming the tilt assist cylinder is frozen - thoughts?
 
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