Home Electric Question

[ebbtide176]

Re: Home Electric Question

since mr crabbie is a card carryin bonafide electrician, he knows what you need... just my 2c <br /><br />i don't think you can pull a usable cable thru that airhose senyor sbn... but i guess you can pull 1 more single wire to make up the 4 needed. in case you don't have correct size for the 220v, you probably already know that 2 little wires do not make up for one big one. i don't know offhand what size wire you need, and can't find my electrical manual. maybe crab can help you there.<br /><br />HTH<br /><br />i've got it! you could use that airhose.... you stick a rag in one end, blow some tnt in to fill it up, insert fuse, light - run like H<br />boom! > new ditch for big pipe

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Yea ebb, I know.<br /><br />Since i would need a minumum of 12/3 wire, it still would not fit so I am still studing options for this.<br /><br />May just dig it all up and run one new service line to the breaker box in the garage and then run my 220 line from it as well as my 110 stuff.

 

[lakeman1999]

Re: Home Electric Question

You do not need four wires.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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I have a 10Gauge underground wire run with 3 wires, 2 conductors and 1 ground.<br /><br />I just need to be able to get 220 to the garage for the air compressor.<br /><br />I have a empty 50amp breaker in the house on a 220 circuit.<br /><br />How do I hook the wires up to it to get 220 to the garage and then be able to split it to have the 110 I need for lights etc?<br /><br />I do have a breaker box in the garage.

 

[lakeman1999]

Re: Home Electric Question

Number 10 wire, you shuld use a 30 amp breaker. Take the two hot wires (each 110) to a box in the garage. Use 2 hots and a ground for 220, and come off of one leg with the hot, and use the ground to give you 110.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

Re: Home Electric Question

So what you are saying then is to hook the black and white wires to a 30amp/220 breaker in the house and then in the breaker box in the garage, just come off it with one power wire and ground for the 110 stuff?<br /><br />Does it make a difference which wire, black or white I use for the power wire for the 110 stuff?

 

[lakeman1999]

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Both will give you 110, but do this with caution, you should not be pulling more than 30 amps (max. load for #10 wire), and this is not ideal conditions, but to give what you need for a job. If you are going to be using a lot of power, for different tools, plus lights you may need to go with bigger wire, with a bigger sub/main, allowing you to set up different circuits.<br />What I am saying is this will get you 220 and 110 in the outbuilding for emergency service, it may not be adequate power for what you have in mind. <br />I have a underground 2 #10 w/ground going to my well house, which runs the well pump (on 220), and have a light in the well house (110) off of one legg (such as the black wire), and a 110 receptacle off the other leg (outlet for power cords, off the white wire), The ground wire is your neutral. This outlet, and light is not meant for continuos full service, but only for emergencys, and occaisional service.

 

[ebbtide176]

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you can get 220v that way. and you can get 2 110v circuits that way. didn't mean to mislead anyone, its just not safe, IMHO<br />if you have a prob with your neutral wire and don't have the 'safety' ground - guess where the current will find ground? yep thru you, or the frame of your eqmt, to be discovered when you find out by touching it, if its not toast already. there was a good reason house wiring went from 2prong to 3prong regulations.<br /> - just be careful, we need our sbnut to give us our daily jokes

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Thanks guys for all the info.<br /><br />After due consideration, I think I will leave it as it is.<br /><br />Was just looking at getting it out of the house's garage to the other garage.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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Spinner Bait Nut, Just a suggestion to help keep things in code. On the white wire that you hook up to the breaker, wrap some tape around it that is any color but white. White is a standard color for the neutral. (Do the other end also, this will tell an electrician that it is a hot wire)......SS

 

[crab bait]

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BOY ,, i'm glad i came home tonite to mow the grass...!!<br /><br />when i say what you need.. im sayin' what you need to do the right way an the safe way an by the NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE.. <br /><br />sure you can surcomvent make things.. make things function ,,stand back an 'back pat' on how smart & clever you are.. <br /><br />but there's only one right way an that's the way of the code..<br /><br />all you weekend electricial genusis out there thinkin' you know ,,when you don't ..will end up burning the damn place down or worst,, killing somebody...

 

[lakeman1999]

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Too many big daddy's, too many people minding others business, and too da*n many codes.

 

[lakeman1999]

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PS!! I also stated the 110 circuit's were advisably for emergency use only, plus much 220 equiptment, and appliences that you purchase (and are often UL approved) split 110 off of 220 in this manner, and often when there is only a three prong plug, or a three wire pigtail exiting the equiptment (the clock, timer fo instance on an electric range, or an electric dryer.

 

[mellowyellow]

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ditto crab!<br />be careful SBN, we don't want to lose you!<br />hate workin w/sparktricity.... especially 220V

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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Crab bait- I never claimed to be an electrician, I did claim to know enough to get us both in trouble though. I respect your valuble opinion about electrical problems. I told him corectly the FIRST time, the second time was a "backwoods it'll work" way.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Thanks all for your replies.<br /><br />I am going to leave as it is for right now.<br /><br />If I do anything different I will dig another trench and run another wire.