How important is precise torque on head gasket

palace

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

Not just idiots but, frigging IDIOTS!!!!!
Thanks Don and Bondo. I thought I had finally found someone I could count on. I am a computer guy by profession. Thinking about becoming a boat mechanic in retirement. I just can 't believe how much money I have given to so many idiots. I have found that most of the marine mechanics in central Illinois can't even get a driver's license.
 

tjb1231

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

It's possible he didn't torque them enough and if you take it apart you could correctly torque it down without taking it apart.
 

joewithaboat

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

Hi redneck, i am a networking it schlub too. I had some jobs in the mechanic biz when i was younger, (machine shop and r&r) I learned the hard way on one of my vehicles that a head gasket job i did failed when i did 2 mistakes. 1. i bought a cheap harbor freight torque wrench, (spend the money on a good one if you plan to have this as a hobby) prob that angle one don mentioned by a good brand. He may recommend one. 2. I didnt chase/clean out the bolt holes with a thread chaser. Blow them out with compressed air. When you are scraping the old gasket off its easy to get stuff in the holes and that does not help your torqueing. Dont know if the marine mech pro's here recommend chasing the threads. I just do it on land motors. Maybe they will chime in. I cant find a good (auto) mech down here in fl. Every time i had something done it went bad in short order. Then when i went back to fix the "pros" job i found bolts missing, and things not connected. I do everything i can myself now. There are most definately great mechs out there. Alot are on here. Good luck, welcome and enjoy your new hobby. Oh yeah i always have the head magnafluxed (for cracks, aluminum is another method)and checked with a straight edge and feeler gauge for trueness before reassembly. Your even supposed to check the block deck surface. I was never a big fan of just pulling it off then putting it back on though alot of folks do it. It costs a little green at the machine shop to have checked but remember this is a marine engine. This might sound dorky but i look at it sort of like going into space. Do you really want to cut corners?

A word of caution about cleaning threads..

It is best to do so with "thread chasers" not "taps". There is a difference.

Used threads in cast iron will be somewhat distorted and chasing the threads with a tap will almost always result in removal of metal. It can lead to pulled threads and necessitate a Helicoil.
 

Newbie@boats

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

I would NEVER do head bolts by feel.

It is far far to important to have to worry about that on the water.

Don't over torque the bolts, if you snap a bolt or destroy the threads you got massive problems.

Wish you were around me I would def give you a hand.
 

rednecktech00

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

Wish you were around me I would def give you a hand.


A mentor would be really nice. Part of me would like to dump this boat. I'm keeping it mainly because I want to learn on something I am not in in love with anymore. Unfortunately, I don't think I can convince my Admiral that we can get a boat we love until this one is gone.
 

wingless

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Re: How important is precise torque on head gasket

When I replaced the heads on my 454 the FSM defined usage of a specific sealant on the head bolts.

The head bolts on my engine screw into the water jacket.

On mine I also did the three-step torque, per the FSM.


454MAGHeadBoltPerfectSeal2.jpg
 
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