How to deal with FWD on slippery ramp

gm280

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The parking area at my main ramp is 1/4 mile up a hill ;) The staging area is the road leading down to the ramp. This is how the ramps are set up at a couple of the lakes that I use, the others have zero room to do as you describe.


WOW, most boating ramps around where I use are all public ramps with tons of parking area and not real issues. I guess it would be different if I had to use a slender one lane setup.
 

oldjeep

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WOW, most boating ramps around where I use are all public ramps with tons of parking area and not real issues. I guess it would be different if I had to use a slender one lane setup.

Tons of parking (46 slots) and a 2 lane setup at the ramp I showed, just no room to be messing around un-hitching. Honestly on a normal weekend day you would be strung up for attempting such a thing as there is a constant stream of boats going in or out and tying up a launch lane for the amount of time it would take to chock, unhitch, turn, re-hitch would not be looked upon very well. It is one thing to be having trouble, another thing to be performing a chinese fire drill act at the launch.
 

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If the safety chain is long enough (or add more) you might leave the boat aft on the trailer maybe 10 or 12 inches to get some weight off the rear vehicle wheels , then winch forward when level. Also, are you satisfied the trailer to hitch weight is the correct ratio?
 

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Years ago, towed a mid 80's 16' Bayliner all over this earth with an Accord and then an Altima. Worked great except for the ramp Olympics. What worked for me was to​ back up a foot or two deeper in the water after the boat was attached, and the trailer was slightly lighter due to the stern floating. That allowed another 1-2 mph of momentum before the full weight was on the tow vehicle, and was often all it took to pull out drama-free.
 

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Something ain't right. If in 4wd your tires are spinning then everyone else retrieving boats there should be having the same problem. Are you sure your 4wd is engaging? Just because your switch, lever or what ever is in 4wd doesn't mean that your front transfer case is engaged. Are you sure your rear and front tires are spinning? First thing I would do is make sure your 4wd is working. If it's working then I'd want to know what tires you have on your vehicle. Some street tires have lousy traction. Mud tires would also give you poor traction on a launch ramp.
 

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A tire with a bit of bite would help, not a highway rain tire.
Traction control off.
One foot on brake, one foot on gas.
Just drag the brake a little to keep the tire from breaking free and spinning.
 

lihartke

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I'd pull it out in low gear. D1,2 not regular D. Not sure it will help but it seems to help me when I do it. I never use 4x4 even on real steep inclines and I have it. I put overdrive on and low "d" but my suv is heavy. New tires is a must or you could end up in the drink. Definitely don't put her in or pull her out with kids in the car just incase :)
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Sorry I miss read the post , when he said fwd (front wheel drive) I was thinking 4wd. My bad.
 

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What about letting out some air out of the front tires - maybe 10 lbs.

Bring an inflator so you can increase air pressure once boat has been pulled out.

Should give you better traction in a pinch.
 

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Something ain't right. If in 4wd your tires are spinning then everyone else retrieving boats there should be having the same problem. Are you sure your 4wd is engaging? Just because your switch, lever or what ever is in 4wd doesn't mean that your front transfer case is engaged. Are you sure your rear and front tires are spinning? First thing I would do is make sure your 4wd is working. If it's working then I'd want to know what tires you have on your vehicle. Some street tires have lousy traction. Mud tires would also give you poor traction on a launch ramp.
4WD? Never mentioned that one here... heck even the title had FWD in it.
 

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Agreed...never seen it done at any ramp I have ever used either.

Some sort of traction pad seems to be the only way other than(God Forbid) get a vehicle designed to do the job better!
First ramp I have had issues with in 6 years so no I am not going to buy a truck for 1 ramp I don't go to often maybe twice this year and never before. You would have to be stupid to buy a truck just for that often of thing.
 

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If the safety chain is long enough (or add more) you might leave the boat aft on the trailer maybe 10 or 12 inches to get some weight off the rear vehicle wheels , then winch forward when level. Also, are you satisfied the trailer to hitch weight is the correct ratio?
Never check the ratio no, but also never had issues before. It feels about right ~200-250 lbs
 

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I'm with Leardriver post #24, reversing back down to take the weight off & then get a run at it works wonders.
Once you're moving just keep going at a steady slow speed and don't stop otherwise you will have to do it all again.

If it's the Crestliner in your tagline you could drop the weight on the ball down to ~100 Lbs.
 
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SkaterRace

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I'm with Leardriver post #24, reversing back down to take the weight off & then get a run at it works wonders.
Once you're moving just keep going at a steady slow speed and don't stop otherwise you will have to do it all again.

If it's the Crestliner in your tagline you could drop the weight on the ball down to ~100 Lbs.
Boat is already sitting far back on the trailer so I would think much further and I would run into issues with damage to the hull not being properly supported.
 

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No change to the boat's position on the trailer. Once the boat is secured to the trailer, strapped, and highway ready, back up a little. Maybe 2 feet. That lightens the load to the tow vehicle and may allow a smidge more momentum, and 1-2 mph of momentum that allows you to get moving can be very noticeable.
 

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So as I mentioned that I towed a much heavier boat, with a much crappier minivan in most certainly substantially crappier ramps (we have endless lakes to boat but the downside is that only select ramps on certain lakes are even marginal at best with a few high end lakes getting the gold star treatment), I figured out that it's tires, tires and tires that makes the difference. While I have now had several truck based suv's that were meant to tow that can't even be mentioned in the same sentence as a minivan, what I learned it it takes very, very little torque to actually pull out of the worst and steepest ramps. With my 180hp/200lb tq minivan, I would simply give it a very small amount of pedal and out it came every time with suprisingly little fuss with the correct tires. It was a stupid and shortsighted move to use a minivan to tow what I was towing but It takes very little to make it do what you want it to do. There is simply no way in hel1 I would have my wife or kids jump on the hood of the van. At a certain point you decide do you want to be a boater with the correct equipment or not.
 

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So as I mentioned that I towed a much heavier boat, with a much crappier minivan in most certainly substantially crappier ramps (we have endless lakes to boat but the downside is that only select ramps on certain lakes are even marginal at best with a few high end lakes getting the gold star treatment), I figured out that it's tires, tires and tires that makes the difference. While I have now had several truck based suv's that were meant to tow that can't even be mentioned in the same sentence as a minivan, what I learned it it takes very, very little torque to actually pull out of the worst and steepest ramps. With my 180hp/200lb tq minivan, I would simply give it a very small amount of pedal and out it came every time with suprisingly little fuss with the correct tires. It was a stupid and shortsighted move to use a minivan to tow what I was towing but It takes very little to make it do what you want it to do. There is simply no way in hel1 I would have my wife or kids jump on the hood of the van. At a certain point you decide do you want to be a boater with the correct equipment or not.
What type of tires do you reccomend? I have almost no tread left (should have been replaced a year ago but never bothered to) but I do have a spare set on rims with only 10% wear and they are good all season ones, michelin actually.
 

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What type of tires do you reccomend? I have almost no tread left (should have been replaced a year ago but never bothered to) but I do have a spare set on rims with only 10% wear and they are good all season ones, michelin actually.
Well if that is the case, I would put those spares on and go from there. I'm betting you will be ten times better off no matter what the tires are if you are running on low treads right now.
 
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