How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

LubeDude

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I know how Im going to do it, but Im interested in how some of you would do it!<br /><br />Try and be specific, even include previous experiences with different ways youve tried!<br /><br />PLEASE "NO" PRODUCT BASHING!!!!<br /><br />Let the fun begin!! :D :D :D <br /><br />LubeDude
 

FLATHEAD

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Drive it like you stole it. :D I never babied any new motor or rebuilt motor. I just ran it like I normally would, with the exception of an oil change at the first 500 miles.
 

ndemge

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

not boat engine:<br /><br />Rebuilt the 350 in my '71 g30 van. 4 barrel rochester carb<br /><br />First 50 or so miles, just kept the rpm's up above idle to keep oil moving, don't think it ever got over 2500rpm. Light driving around local streets, varing throttle<br /><br />Changed oil and Filter<br /><br />Next 500 Miles, varing throttle between 1500-3300 rpm back and forth, accel, decel<br /><br />Changed Oil and Filter<br /><br />I'm up to about 800 miles on the engine now, I just drive it now. It hasn't seen over bout 4200 rpm.<br /><br />The instant the oil starts to change color its going to be changed (well before the first 3000) Then it will be every 3000 after that with 2qt oil filter. (ac delco Filter)<br /><br />How's that sound?
 

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Pistons get a bit of ATF (automatic trans fluid) on the rings when there installed..<br /><br /> Plenty of lube on the cam, pushrod ends, ect., usually what ever lube the cam mfg. specs.... No spec, i use Lubriplate...<br /><br />Run at above 1200-1500 rpm for about 30 minutes to get the cam broke in, then, like Flahthead, drive it like you stole it..<br /><br /> A few good hard accellerations well into the hi end of the midrange rpm, to help the rings seat... (try explaining that one to the cops) :eek: After the first run, re-torque the head bolts (if necessary) and give everything the once over... <br /><br /> Keep varying the rpm's for about 500 miles or so..<br /><br />200 miles, change the oil.. then I'l change oil again at 1000 miles...
 

LubeDude

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

I should have mentioned that it is 351 clevland, 4V, small cam! This is the De Tamoso Pantera engine!!<br /><br />LubeDude
 

JasonJ

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

I just drive them like normal, avoiding full throttle, but do fairly hard acceleration. Try to avoid any long-term idling or steady cruising until after 500 miles, change oil, drive the same way again until 1000, change oil, and if there is a minimum of sparkly stuff in the oil, its full-throttle-any-way-I-want normal driving after that. I have never believed in the babying thing I see a lot of people with new cars do. Heck, when we get new truck at work, they go from sitting on the dealers lot to carrying hundreds of pounds of pest control stuff for 150-300 miles a day, and they are fine...
 
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DJ

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Drive it like you stole it. If it doesn't live past the first 1K miles, it was a bad rebuild.<br /><br />If it does live, it'll be good for 100K plus.<br /><br />I've seen many an engine come right off the assembly line, bolted to a test stand and run at wide open throttle (full torque load) and run well past 4000 hours.
 

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

There is? was? an Indian motorcycle shop owner in southern NYS that broke in his rebuilds by turning the engine over (without the spark plugs) with an electric motor and belt for several hours or however long he did it. He said it seated everything in without any stress.
 

Skinnywater

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Changing the oil quickly is a good idea.<br /><br />And following the owners manuel for break in proceedures is to.
 

Kenneth Brown

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

The procedure I was taught for air cooled engines actually works great in water cooled also. You will do all of the varying rpms just as everyone else. After the valves are set run it till it reachs operating temp, all the while timing how long it takes. Allow it to cool completely then do it again. Repeat until the time till operating temp is constantly the same. The motor is now broke in. It usually only takes about 2 hours of run time for most motors.
 

tylerin

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

I'd run her at about 1500rpm's for the first 30 minutes to break in the cam, w/ non detergent oil. Then take it to 5/8 or so redline and let off, sending all the oil to the top w/out a load. Repeat this process over and over. I don't make the first oil change til I'm positive the rings are set. You can make that first oil change to early, I don't think 200-500 is enough.If your breaking in a Ford or a Dodge, get on your knees and do a little praying :D
 

mattttt25

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

for my new toyota, i followed the manual- no towing for the first 1000 miles. no cruise control for the first 1000 miles (vary the rpms). no high speeds for the first 1000 miles (keep it below 70). no special oil changes or maintenance. once i hit 1001 miles, drove it like normal. i know it's nothing for these toyota's, but at 23,500 miles and counting, no problems (knock on wood!)
 

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

tylerin said:
If your breaking in a Ford or a Dodge, get on your knees and do a little praying
LMAO, I love it! :D
 

LubeDude

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Thanks guys for all your posts! The way it is going to go down is a combination of all!<br /><br />First let me say that there is a difference in this type of car only in that they do not get driven like your family car! These cars are lucky to get driven 500 miles a year and some less than 100! Therefor they need to be broken in as fast as possable as they may never get 10,000 mile on them in a lifetime! This particular engine has about 25 miles on it already with the cam breakin procedure done and enough miles on it to get the timing right and make sure there are no leaks or strange noises! So with that said here is whats going to happen!<br /><br />The oil was just changed, the crappy Fram filter replaced with a Napa Gold, Straight 30WT oil added, car will be taken out on the highway and brought up to temp, then left in third gear, (five speed) RPMs brought up to 2,500 then floored to 5,000 then let off to 2,500, then floored to 5,000, this will be repeated for any where from 10-20 times depending on the trafic! What this does is when you step on it, is washes the oil away from the cylinders and lets the rings come in contact with the cylinders to initiate break in, then when you let off it allows the oil to wash the particals away and lubes things up again! When this is done Ill take the car back and change the oil to synthetic and change the filter! Thats all the breakin this car will ever get! Is it really broken in all the way?? NO, But it never will be! The reason for synthetic is that the oil in these cars will not get changed every year and the oil I use has a High TBN rating which means that it will be protected from oxidation while sitting! Also synthetics have no sulpher content which keeps acids from forming in the oil! They do get started and run up to temp at least every month all year long, which isnt the best practice as it would be better to drive them, but at least it gets oil splashed around and the seals lubed up!<br /><br />I also hone the cylinders as fine as posable, which is the way the new engines coming from the new car manufacturers are done! That is why (Ive found out) That they can get away with installing synthetics from the factory on some new cars! <br /><br />Snapperbait has a good point on the ATF when installing the pistons! Used to be we always coated the cyliders with oil and poured a generous helping of oil on the pistons and rings before installing them, now however we want the rings to come onto contact with the cylinders as soon as possable to help with break-in!<br /><br />Also, Ive discovered that you can sometimes stop a new car with less than 10,000 miles on it from using oil by following the procedure above! I did it with a mazda P/U my dad had! It was using oil like crazy when new, he was having to add a quart every 1,000 miles! I borrowed it one day and ran the H*ll out of it for about an hour, then took in to a jiffy lube (Yuk) and had the oil changed! I took it back to him and never told him what I did! A few months went by and he said, " ya know, the truck hasnt used any oil sence you barrowed it the other day" I just said, " hmmmm"!<br /><br />LubeDude
 
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DJ

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Why do only foriegn car owners, read the manual?
 

LubeDude

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Manuals are for sissies!! And people that dont know any better!! :D <br /><br />Man am I going to take it for that one!!! :eek: :eek: <br /><br />LubeDude
 
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DJ

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Hasn't anyone ever used Bon Ami to seat the rings in an engine? <br /><br />100K miles, in a can.. :eek: :D
 

Skinnywater

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Yeah, that's what I use after I bore cylinders with a rattail file.<br /><br />Usually, the only special tools I need for a simple overhaul is a hatchet and a can of Permatex.<br /> :D
 
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DJ

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

Skinnywater,<br /><br />A hatchet and Permatex? That's way too fancy. ;) <br /><br />All one really needs is a hammer and a torch.
 

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Re: How would you break in a rebuilt engine??

DJohns19... I bought the torch for my last one and never needed it :p :) :p
 
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