Hypodermic needles for boat lubrication

[joeyoung0071]

I am a defense attorney. My client is charged with possession hypodermic needles. He was on a boat and claims the needles are used for lubricating the boat. Has anybody heard of this practice?

 

[Franki]

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Hmmm, lubrication for him or the boat??<br /><br />I have not heard of it being a regular pactise here in Australia, but that certainly doens't mean it isn't elsewhere..<br /><br />I can certainly think of a few places they would be handy, but no more handy and probably less then a good oilcan with a flexable neck..<br /><br />If they were clean hypodermics, unused, and there were more then one or perhaps two, I would say he was making it up.. though when he said that, it's also possible that he was refering to something specific to his boat type or brand...<br /><br />regards<br /><br />Franki

 

[joeyoung0071]

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Thanks for the reply Franki! There were two needles and they were indeed clean. You say they could be used though. How and where?

 

[Bondo]

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If I was on your Clients Jury, I'd Hang him....<br />If there was one(1) needle With Oil In It, IN a ToolBox......(I can't think of a Thing to use it for)<br />OR If it were In a TackleBox.....(to make worms Float)<br />MAYBE, I might let him Walk....<br />But, Two(2) Clean Needles..... Sounds like a Party to me....

 

[Terry H]

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Joe...why would it be illegal to possess hypodermic needles? Got lots of em around the ranch here...some of em for maintenance uses, mostly for animal care tho...don't cary any needles on a boat tho...hope you're not just fishing for some lame excuse, certainly don't need any drugged out pilots out there...got to be more to the story than you speak...just some Thoughts

 

[auslez]

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Did the syringe have the needle attached??? My wife uses syringes only {no needles} to oil her sewing equipment and as a VERY accurate measure for childrens medicines etc, and now I use them for applying oil and grease to my fishing equipment...they actually work rather well, but I stress...no needle, I would think that a needles guage would be far too small to be used for any practical purpose other than it's intended use.

 

[Boatist]

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JoeYoung<br />What kind of drugs is he on?? Not legal to have in possition here in California without a precription. I have used a worm inflator needle but much different. Also used a pen oiler in the computer business.<br />Bottom line is he did not buy the needles to oil his boat. Even if he wanted to no drug store would sell them to him.

 

[fishfearme]

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JOe, <br />I've been around boats most of my life and have never heard of needles for lubricating boats as you say. I have heard of using needles to inflate chum so that it floats for certain kinds of fishing, ie tarpon, shark. <br />As a normal person, questions I'd ask, did the aledged needles indeed have oil in them? walmart sells a zebco reel oil thingy, that looks like a tube with a needle on the end for getting in those tight spots. Maybe you should compare. Anyway good luck.

 

[SlowlySinking]

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Sounds a bit fishy, check his rap sheet and then his arms and between his toes for needle tracks, no priors and a lack of tracks may be a defense strategy. Too bad he's in Ca. in New York you can legally buy up to 10 needles from a drug store at a time without a RX, seems the lawmakers prefer that to druggies spreading aides with used needles. Good luck.

 

[chads15]

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I work on Laser Printers and Digital Copy Machines for my job and I carry one with a long large guage needle to lube up parts. I have 3 in one Oil in it. Its one of the best tools I have?!

 

[sony2001]

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As the question stands, yes they can be used the get a more accurate amount of lubrication into areas than an oil can can and not have half the oil end up on the floor. Its a good idea to take them along when visiting developing countries incase you fall sick.(Mexico for one)

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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I have several that I use to give shots to my dogs and one or two I keep in my tackle box to inflate nightcrawlers to make them float better and to make them bigger, but have never used one to lubricate anything on the boat.<br /><br />Nowadays, you never know and I would do some more checking with him.

 

[gewf631]

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It would depend A LOT on the size (guage) of the needle. There's a world of difference between an insulin syringe (similar to what drug addicts use), and a veterinary syringe (they've got a lot more skin/hide to go through, and you're not as concerned with scars/pain). As someone who has dealt with literally THOUSANDS of needles (I spent many years mixing IV's in a Hospital Pharmacy), there's just some things that will NOT go through a small diameter needle, nor would you use a large diameter needle to inject something into a human - without leaving one heck of a scar! I also have a farming background, and we ALWAYS used those needles for uses other than medical, but those needles are manufactured differently than those for use in humans (thicker metal).<br /> Some oils will interact with the materials used in syringes (it expands the rubber, much like on an oil filter gasket). So to answer your question, it depends! Small, insulin-sized needle/syringe, very little chance of lubrication uses. Larger needle/syringe, good chance of lubrication uses.<br />Having said all that, I routinely carry a few insulin-sized syringes in my vehicles and boat - they're GREAT for splinters. For similar reasons, I also carry a few sutures in my first aid kits. I also But then again, if stopped/searched, I suppose my Pharmacy License would save me!

 

[mattttt25]

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this post makes me laugh. joe clearly states he is a defense attorney, yet people try to offer him advise on representing his client! joe- i have no idea if you could use a needle on a boat for anything other than drugs, but i like your idea of asking around on iboats. i'd hire you!<br /><br />take care-

 

[muskyone]

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my best friend is a insulin depent diabetic so theres allways syringes in my boat never even thought i would need a lawer to explain it for me hope the guy who bought the old boat cleans it out good but thay are nice for blowing up worms

 

[neumanns]

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I dont know why im responding, however seems to me that any lubricant used typically for marine application would be to viscous (thick) to be funcionally pushed through any needle thin enoufgh to be in question. 3in 1 etc is very thin oil and not of practical use that i can think in boat lubes.<br /><br /> Guess its time to think a diffrent defense since you represent him, surley you can come up with something better than this,would not defend him in the first place, I believe his intended usage is was illicet and should pay the fiddeler. maybe I'm wrong here.<br /><br />Edited: I was curius why you have 2 posts yet a search only turns up this one. Was it offensive language or inapropriat content, I'm sure you have a fine explanation.

 

[roscoe]

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I am reasonably sure we will never hear from this leach on society again. He's just looking to make a name for himself to make up for his probable slacker grades in law skule. He's only 29 and is desparate to get his client off the charges any way possible.<br /><br />Now if you are looking to hire an expert witness, my fee is $1000 a day, plus expenses, 5 day minimun.<br /><br />Let's see, ways to use a hypo on a boat:<br />You HAVE to have one to lube the needle bearings.<br />It is best to have one to accurately measure the TC-W3 to assure 50:1 ratio.<br />I know of no other way to get oil into the primer bulb.<br /><br />Like I said, I'm for hire.

 

[joeyoung0071]

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Hey all, thanks for the input!! I have had a lot of fun and gained knowledge from your postings.<br />mattttt25 - you made me laugh<br />bondo - I don't think I want you on the jury<br />Thought101 - I am fishing for a lame excuse<br />auslez - I am hoping the jury will accept the fact that my client needed VERY accurate lubrication<br />Boatist - are you the district attorney?<br />fishfearme - I'm going to Walmart!<br />SlowlySinking - good advice, wish I was in NY<br />chads15 - wish you worked on a boat in San Diego and I could call you as an expert<br />sony2001 - are you in San Diego, could use your opinion.<br />Spinner_baitNut - I wish my client had nightcrawlers on board<br />ED F - Great Info! I hope you don't testify for the prosecutor though<br />muskyone - Let me know if you need some explaining<br />neumanns - I do have a fine explanation - I made 2 posts. Anyway, I'll try to keep my options open - thanks for the insight.

 

[joeyoung0071]

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roscoe, where do i sign?

 

[roscoe]

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Sorry Joe, I thought I had to say what I said to get you to respond. I have seen several post similar to this on various site over the years, and most of the posters just disappear after they hear a little criticism. You proved me wrong.<br /><br />I'll have my people send you a contract, as soon as I get some people.