I feel bad for Rush

[Ralph 123]

Re: I feel bad for Rush

Right on Ray - well said!<br /><br />Funny how the compasionate, caring left doesn't give a sh!t when it's a conservative like Rush with a problem. Hypocrasy rains supreme. Just like they didn't care that Saddam tried to assasinate Goerge Bush. I bet if he tried to kill Clinton they would have called for war right then and there.<br /><br />And neumanns, his doctor reccommended another round of surgery. Do you think he would have done so if Rush was not in pain with a legit condition? Get real.

 

[BrianFD]

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Fer crissakes, Ray. How 'bout nominating him as the only living saint?! Heck, from the sounds of it from you, he's done more good for humanity than Sr. Teresa.<br />Likewise, you have no idea if he's really in pain, or just addicted to the pain relief. I've known people that have complained for decades of back pain that couldn't be proved one way or the other by trained physicians.<br />And as far as leaving him alone, he's still in the public's eye, and he's a celebrity of sorts, so that makes him a target, much like Clinton was/is still his target.<br />As a former substance abuser (clean now for 11 years, thank God), I can speak from experience that I could find and use any/all excuse(s) to support my habit. It's a lonely difficult road to recovery, and I don't envy Rush at all, but I know what's ahead of him in that regard. Now whether or not his following will stay and support him, who knows?<br />Personally, I feel for him. Don't like him, but I feel for him.

 

[FLATHEAD]

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Come on Ray ,,,, 30 pills a day. At some point in time it stopped being a medicine thing and Rush **** well knew it. I have had vertebra problems all my life ( three fused together since birth) Don't tell me about back pain. Rush is an addict and he will be for the rest of life. Hopefully for him it will be the "recovering" addict from here on out.

 

[Ralph 123]

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When and how did the number he was taking become known?

 

[neumanns]

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Castaway, I do not know such pain and hope I never do. I assume that you still have considerable pain and would hope that you still have a physician involved with managing that pain. That is not what I have issue with. The issue I have is when one takes managment into there own hands via self medication with Illegal Drugs.<br /><br />I think that if you have not expierenced it first hand that you have no right to comment is a brash statment. I think many people who have not expierenced somthing first hand still have viable opinions. Taking this Ideology to the extreame would infer that unless we have been killed or have killed how do we know it is not good.<br /><br />I do not equate using illegal drugs to dealing illegal drugs. However I do feel strongly about Illegal drug use. Just because someone is shooting up heroin on there private yacht as opposed to shooting up in an alley does not make him any better. I am not equating heroin to pain meds I am equating illegal drug use to illegal drug use by a better class of people. They are both illegal drug use. <br /><br />As for Mcnabb...Rush has been saying it for years, and it only recently become a contraversy. However weather substantiated or not these kinds of charges can be devestating. What I was infering was without those charges the drug story would have had far less legs. Our socioty is far less forgiving of the apperance of racial statments than of a drug problem by someone who can do them in style. I believe Rush comprehends this and knows although the drug story will be sensational it will overshadow the other story and in the end he will be forgiven for the drugs because he has seeken treatment.

 

[neumanns]

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Ralph, I do not dispute why he started the drugs. I question why he continued there usage beyond the recomendation of his physician.<br /><br />A recomandation for another surgery is not necescarily an inducation of extreame pain. It could have been recomended for many reasons.<br /><br />His Dr. origanally prescribed them. If his Dr. thought there continued usage had been warrented wouldn't he have continued the script?

 

[Ralph 123]

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Ah screw it... too much personal stuff... I just pray your faith in the medical comminity is maintained. I have none for very good reasons. I admit a heavy bias here. So ciao

 

[snapperbait]

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In my book......... If you Use/Buy/Sell illegal drugs that you ain't supposed to have, that warrents a trip to jail..... No excuses.....

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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hmmmmmmmm, lotsa thoughts<br /><br />30 a day??? that should kill him!<br /><br />anyway ... (if hes taking that much tylenol a day, hes going to wind up with hepatic and nephrological issues)<br /><br />Yes, I know pain very well, codein, percocet, darvocet, nothing really touched it, but I just kept going, let it do as much as it could and dealt with the spillover. yes, I have both percocet and darvocet, one is pink, one is white, and when the pain is really bad, I alternate them, like I do with tylenol and advil, but I try to take them as sparingly as I can<br /><br />I just got back from shoppin with the one woman Nurse Nightingale parade - she took one look at me towards the end of the trip, and said, oh god, your back! I guess the paleness of my face and the sweat pouring off of me gives me away every time, but I cant let pain stop me, I wont let it stop me<br /><br />and no, I didnt dip into the percs, cause I come from a family of admitted alcoholics, I shook off booze, got off of percs and darvocets back in the late 80's, took tylenol, and a cold pack on my back<br /><br />with the exception of nicotine and carbohydrates, I am addiction free, and I am going to stay that way<br /><br />well, except for sex and Iboats, but I aint giving up sex for nothin, I just hope iboats stays in business!<br /><br />enough about my pain<br /><br />Rush may be pulling a Clinton, yanno, get caught with yer little billy stuck in a page, so start a war to diffuse the mess, maybe maybe not, I dont know if even Rush has the pull to get himself caught in a DEA sting to get out of some total bullsh!t calling a spade a spade situation (NO PUN INTENDED, sheesh!)<br /><br />I maintain that he is in the unenviable situation of Elvis, of the Unflinching Public Eye, and he did what he thought was the right thing to do, if I could avoid the knife (and its attendant mortality factors) I would certainly take a pill first, this man gets chauffered everywhere he goes, is always under the protective eye of no neck guys, and as a public figure has to stay on top of his game, and with his work ethic he feels as a public servant, his place is informing the public. Cant do that resting up in bed!<br /><br />By the way, I am no dittohead, my thoughts are mine, and Rush can be a bit annoying with his propensity towards vivisection of specific nerves - but he has new listeners coming on board all the time, he has to bring them up to speed <br /><br />ah well, Ive killed my spare time raging against this injustice, all Ill say is, walk a mile in the shoes of a back patient, youll understand how far a mile truly is, think of it as a mile walked barefoot on sharp stones, painfully aware of each and every step<br /><br />got it?<br /><br />good!<br /><br />

 

[12Footer]

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NOno, dont screw it. This is a subject that we should really disect. Drugs regulate my blood pressure, ease my pain, relax my muscles, and heal my heartburn.<br />I would never advocate living without them, as they have thier place. But what good is a pill that only werks for a short time, and the next time you take it, it is less effective?<br />This is where Rush and my son in-law both got into trouble. I injured my back at werk. If I had stuck with the perscribed treatments offered by the carrier's choice in physicians, I would be in his shoes today.<br />Sometimes, there just is nothiong that surgery can do. I had surgery. I have to be extremely carefull with every move I now make, or I'm bed-ridden for a week minimum!<br />The werker's comp docs wanted me to take pain killers and muscle relaxers, and go thru draconian therapy sessions that only increased the swelling to the point of 100%disability....Then told me to "return to werk on light duty". True story!<br />But the "red flags" to a potential addiction on my part was narrowly avoided by the observation the the pain pills were a stronger type,at a higher doseage, after each visit to the docs on WC payroll.<br />My biggest point to terlling you all this, is that this is how these addictions begin.<br />As far as Rush and my son in-law (gawd, it hurts to say that), and thier addictions--- "There, but for the grace of God, go I"---and millions of my countrymen,who suffer cronic pain.<br />But in the end I went to my personal physician who refered me to a nuerosurgeon, and then, I got a good lawyer! <br />What could be done has been done,and I have to learn to live with pain, or be like Rush. I made my comittment, and put the rest in God's hands.

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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that is EXACTLY right!!! my hero is, well, was a man named Dr James A Corea, 63 years old and an absolutely MAGNIFICENT basstard, he was built like Arnold til his every untimely death (by NOT heeding his own advice, he was trying to get back on the radio, and THEN go get his heart taken care of, but the big guys time ran out )<br /><br />but always said, over and over, NEVER GET THE CUT<br /><br />PEOPLE!!! NEVER GET THE CUT!<br /><br />which was his statement against back surgery, this man never drank or smoked, yet he said if you need to ease the pain, DO IT, and let that back heal naturally<br /><br />back surgery is a horror, laminectomies and all the assorted proceedures and operations are crap shots at BEST, the specific pressures and complications make it incredibly hard to successfully heal the back, healing is something best left to nature if at all possible<br /><br />and the doc said that 90% of proceedures are unwarranted, given time the back will heal itself<br /><br />I keep my back muscles strong as steel to keep the pain down, the exercises hurt but they also, in the long run, help<br /><br />hmmmmmmmmmmm ...<br /><br />lets see, my blood pressure is managed by three different pills taken twice a day, I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail<br /><br />my cholesterol is managed by a pill a day,I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail <br /><br />ny diabetes is managed by two pils a day,I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail<br /><br />my diabetes related microcirculatory insufficiencies are managed by two pills a day, I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail<br /><br />my electrolyte imbalances are managed by two pills a day, I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail<br /><br />in a related note, my renal insufficiencies are managed by two pills a day, I guess I am an addict too, haul me off to jail<br /><br />Silly as hell, right?<br /><br />but for Rush to have pain managed by x pills a day, HE IS AN ADDICT TOO, DRAG HIM OFF TO JAIL<br /><br />great point 12footer!<br /><br />glad I thought of it!<br /><br />hehehe<br /><br />

 

[BLU LUNCH]

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I can't believe how sorry and bad everybody feels for Rush. The guy screwed-up big time and he should pay for keeping the illegal drug trafficing going in Florida. Or maybe just helping the ecomity out. Myself I know the pain of addiction, after nearly losing my right arm in a Cnc machine accident I had my arm torn from the rotator cuff and after 4 major operations I got hooked perocets for nearly 3 years even after I did not need them I craved so bad every day for them and finally told my doctors and I was weened of them. Even now the littlest pain I crave for perocets. Rush could have done the same..but chose not to. Only after he was nailed, did he fess up. I hope he is taken of the air. No one has done more to divide this great country than him, and I hope he get's what he deserves.....tarred and feather and sent to prision

 

[neumanns]

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I wanted to get out of this without any enimies hope it's not to late. The devil in me wants to make some wise arse comments but I'll refrain.<br /><br />Castaway & Ralph in particular, I offer a truce. May we just agree to disagree on this one. And on that note what say the three of us just take ol Soulwinner out hind the woodshed and learn him not to provoke us like that. I see he baited us again and then left us to fight.<br /><br />Hey Soulwinner...Come over here qiuck I wanna show ya somthing out behind the garage, No No No really your gonna love it I promise,....Ahh comon itll only take a minute.

 

[12Footer]

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LOL. uhoh, Soulwinner...You're in a heap of trouble now!

 

[cobiafisherman]

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I've set here for a good while reading all the comments about Rush's problems and predicament he is in...and my first thought upon reading the comments that is probably 80% of them align the writer with their political bent, i.e., conservative or liberal..republican or democrat. <br /><br />I try to be objective whether is be Clinton, or Limbaugh...and what I see thus far coming from Limbaugh sounds to me like a man on the run. His first announcement was to the effect of avoiding the issue by saying in effect, "I have not yet heard anything from any legal system and until I do, I will have nothing to say". The next days news was merely that he had hired a nationally known lawyer (which makes me wonder WHY? is he has nothing to hide. The next day, yesterday he announced his precription drug addiction..and that he has been told to make no further comments (to which I wonder, 'told by whom?'...his lawyer or the legal system...and I doubt very much is was from the legal system. So where am I now with his stand. Some writers herein rave of his confession....but thus far to me...he still is merely inching his way with words..carefully avoiding the issues of Legal/Illigal...and that is just like so many other pillars of society until they get caught.<br /><br />I am not a religious person...but I do feel there are many powerful lessons in life to be learned from the Bible...and one of those that always pops up is...along the lines of "We are all but filthy rags compared to Jesus....which translate to a dictim I state to others...and that is that there be extremely few people on this planet that could withstand an investigation of their lives or family by the media and/or legal systems and come out feeling proud.

 

[FLATHEAD]

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Sorry ray but you talk like a man with a paper aZZhole. Uh,,, yeah lets compare blood pressure pills and diabetes pills with what Rush was up to. DUH!!!

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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hey, yer right bout that neumanns ... hmmmm, soul winner, yeah yeah, cmere ... <br /><br />and besides, everyone is entitled to an opinion, thats what makes America great, you are no enemy of mine neumanns, I think you are a treasure (well, burying you did occur to me, lol)<br /><br />

If the anchor is able but unwilling to pay you could threaten to maroon the anchor on dry land, this may get results as anchors love water.

nope nope nope, ya gotta try a lot harder than that to alienate me, every time I see an anchor I think of that line and laugh<br /><br />I gotta admit, when that kidney stone thing happened back in the spring, I said screw it, and ate percs like candy, it was that or scream and writhe in pain every moment of the day, back pain totally sucks, but kidney stones ... ::shudder::<br /><br />when they stopped hurting, I was taking percs just in case they started hurting again, but realized I was getting hooked on em again, and got off of em<br /><br />but I kept one in a little pill holder for months!<br /><br />guess I sure as hell was addicted to the pain relief, that much pain can kill

 

[snapperbait]

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Rush needs to go thru withdrawl in a jail cell...... If it were you or me, we'd be in deep stuff... But Rush, he'll weasle and buy his way outta it...<br /><br />What a scum bag....

 

[SeaMasterZ@aol.com]

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flathead, yeah, its a little different, but not by much<br /><br />listen, you hacked fingers off, would you be pissed if people pointed fingers at you - ummm, wait, lemme rephrase that - if people made comments about you saying, lookit that guy, using pain pills, what an addict, what a wuss, etc etc<br /><br />I could see it if he was a belushi or a farley, but hes just fighting pain, not tapping into some creative cosmic well or whatever bullsh!t those hollywood mainliners come up with<br /><br />and what the hell is a paper azzhole?? what sort of a crack is that?????? LOLOLOLOL<br /><br />(couldnt resist!)<br /><br />

 

[FLATHEAD]

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Ray , Sorry to disagree with ya. Rush has a problem and it has nothing to do with pain at this point. He knows it and admits to it. So why do you feel you have to defend him? LMAO on the comment about my fingers. I really got a kick out of it. Just so you know I never took any pain killers after I left the hospital, just aspirin.