In case you had any doubts about Clinton & Bin Laden

KennyKenCan

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Re: In case you had any doubts about Clinton & Bin Laden

You will never get it plywoody,<br /><br />The direct reason for the attack on September 11 is the direct result of Bill Clintons do nothing administration!<br /><br />Yet you continue to support that do nothing attitude, and then you expect to get respect from those that cannot and will not tolorate a do nothing attitude.<br /><br />Keep those blinders on there 'ol plywoody, and continue to keep following the blind!
 

samagee

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Plywood, you said:"but what is important is what we are doing now-not what might have been had someone did something different almost a decade ago."<br /><br />COME ON! Take a look at military strat for a sec. Look at the well known tactic known as the "Trojan Horse". Why is it known as that? Why is it so named? When did it happen? Now tell me the past does not matter!<br /><br />You can't possibly for a moment think that the past does not affect the present or future.
 

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What??? PW is correct in the assessment that Clintons actions dont matter now. It is water under the bridge. However, we can certainly learn from that administrations failures. Most of us have.
 

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Attempting to reason out issues of morality and responsibility to a self admitted draft dodger is a waste of time.<br /><br />Bill Clinton dishonored his professed faith and family for a cheap orgasm.Anyone that would come to this guys defense on any issue has skeletons in their closet IMO.Clinton too was a maggot sucking draft dodger who was pleased to have someone elses boy take a bullet for what he didn't believe in.In short ,he was a coward to his country and his family.I wonder if that will be in the history books?I doubt it.
 

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I do see your point Samagee. I'm splitting hairs there, and am with you on the larger point.
 

Ralph 123

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Right on OB. I have often said that people who were defending his actions were really defending their own...
 

KennyKenCan

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SCO,<br /><br />The actions of the Clinton administration doesn't matter now?<br /><br />How can you come to that conclusion?<br /><br />We are still reaping the ramifications of the Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon administations, so how can the ramifications of the Clinton administration not matter now?<br /><br />They will always matter.<br /><br />Unfortunatly, thats the price one must pay when they decide to run for the Oval Office!<br /><br />Bill Clinton's do nothing administration got us into this mess, he should take some of the blame!<br /><br />Besides, he might even gain some respect if he did.<br /><br />Kenny
 

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GW1 would have been re-elected if it wasn't for<br />Ross Perot taking a chunk of votes (I even voted<br />for that Nut :rolleyes: ) term 2 was just riding<br />the wave of a really good economy and keeping the<br />staus quo. he captured a vast majority of the<br />minority vote as did Hill-o-beans running here<br />in NY. the most saying thing to me is that every<br />single person I have every talked to from AK<br />treat them both as the plague!
 

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Well, I don't think it is helpful to spew unfounded speculation, half truths, and lies, put it in a book and make a ton of money on it, and generally feed off the fear and profiteer on the backs of those that lost their lives on 9/11.<br /><br />But then that is just me. I don't understand morality. At least your version of morality.<br /><br />And what about Osama Bin Forgotten? By all reports we had him at Tora Bora. Anyone that has ever hunted a rabbit knows that before you go in and flush him out, you need to cover the potential escape routes. <br /><br />Oh, yeah, I trust this administration. Just like when they were preparing for the Iraq war, and we heard all about these wmd's and their nuclear program, and how they had unmanned vehicles ready to deliver weapons to the US and how they were this big immediate threat...only to find out that well some of the time they just lied, and the rest of the time they had flawed intelligence reports--and the only thing we don't know exactly was how much of what was which.
 

ob

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PW ,Please stop being evasive and speak in specifics.What book?What lies?Morality doesn't have a multiple definition.Unless of course you need it to.
 

SoulWinner

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I think he MUST be referring to Al Frankin's new book, "Lies and the Lieing Liars who Tell Them" :D
 

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I am still so very angry with Clinton and his admin over the "Mogadishu situation", that all else pales in light of it!<br />He was far more than the worse president since Carter, and his legacy will not be re-written on my watch, no matter how hard they try!<br />If we allow them to re-write history now, we may end-up with Hillary. I know she is a long-shot, given the rest of the party's failings of late. But do not let your gaurd down.It's when they make thier moves every time.<br />Keep blasting them with the truth, and maybee we will gain TRUE checks and ballances, as opposed to conspired ones.<br />Call a spade a spade, regardless of whether thats a good or bad thing.
 

KennyKenCan

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This thread, like many before this, is going down the preverbial crapper.<br /><br />I'm out of here!<br /><br />Kenny
 

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Kenny, <br />PW said" what is important is what we are doing now-not what might have been had someone did something different almost a decade ago." <br /><br />I agree with that. We've got GW in office doing the right thing. I'm relieved. I'm not cutting BC any slack here. I think the ramifications of his legacy hurt us to this day, but what is important now is the course we chart to get out of this mess.
 

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"MY PREDICTION"<br />You just watch, the next democratic convention, there will be an upset, and it will be a big fight with no one agreeing who should run, and it will end up with everyone compromising on a draft hellery (hillery) coup, and you will see the biggest ending celebration ever for a convention. You will see QU**RS and DIKES in all their sickening glory parading and partying in a disgustingly sick salute to insanity, and at the forefront leading them will be reverend (???)jessie jacson, and the reverend (???) al sharpton. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

KennyKenCan

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Agreed SCO, agreed!<br /><br />As long as we don't backslide to a do nothing administration in the next election.<br /><br />Kenny
 

Ralph 123

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You all have it easy! I am going to have to put up with these SOBs while they have their conevtion here! It's going to be like Hell on Earth.<br /><br />PW<br /><br />
And what about Osama Bin Forgotten? By all reports we had him at Tora Bora. Anyone that has ever hunted a rabbit knows that before you go in and flush him out, you need to cover the potential escape routes.
I knew we should haave put YOU in charge! Dang! GW screwed up! With your military prowess we could have killed him then!<br /><br />Leave it to someone like you to find fault in what we did. We did in weeks what the Soviets could not do in a decade! Yet, you are able to find fault... give me a break for Heaven's sake!<br /><br />As for the rest of your comments, I only wish we could have figured out a way to make sure any future attacks would have only been against people in favor of inaction. Then I would not have cared. But, since we are all equal targets, better safe than sorry! Kill him and every other sorry SOB who could even REMOTELY threaten me and my family. Lucky for you you get the benefit too.<br /><br />instead of diggin yourself a hole you will never get out of why don't you *try* to restore some credibility with us by using FACTS? I am getting tired of debunking your comments with hard facts. It is getting old.<br /><br />PS - I see you regained control of your user id. Too bad I liked the other guy better. He sounded very reasonable.
 

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SCO posted, "PW said" what is important is what we are doing now-not what might have been had someone did something different almost a decade ago." <br /><br />I agree with that. We've got GW in office doing the right thing. I'm relieved. I'm not cutting BC any slack here. I think the ramifications of his legacy hurt us to this day, but what is important now is the course we chart to get out of this mess. "<br /><br />Well said, and the point made.<br />But I cannot forgive or forget, Every time that now-PD video airs on the tube, of our boys being dragged thru the streets. It was bad enough trying to get the best military on the planet to do a police action , best left to the UN --- but then, to just withdrawl. I don't care if this hijacks the thread, whether it is percieved as a troll, or what anyone thinks of Bush 41 or 43. The fact remians ,there is a totally different approach to what America calls "Commander in Chief". Those three words, TO ME, are far more important than all other direct tasks of the office of President. That BC had sex and where are just character-flaws, and hurt few,if nobody. To let Binlaidnot go scott-free, to back-away from terrorists and thier motivies, to wag the dog, while leaving the dog allone to attack at will, was unforgiveable and unforgetable.<br /><br />And some people allways wonder why us conservatives sound like skippiung CDs on Bill and his administration. It goes deeper than moral bankruptcy. It goes to the core of what the "world's dogs" think we are.<br />So we skip the CD so they hear it again and again and again. Sooner or later, maybee they'll get thier news from something other than the liberal-owned media, or at LEAST run a comparison of thier own.
 

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One quick predicition - expect news about the WMDs around the anniversary... scuttlebut is they have been found and they are waiting for the right time to release all the info. Plus it might involve us maybe having to go into Syria to dig them up... <br /><br />Bush and Rove are strategists - they want to wait until the news will have the biggest impact (most people paying attention) and also give the critics another chance to make azzs out of them selves.
 

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12, that's all correct. We talked about this some about a year ago. If the dogs of the world smell weakness in the USA's leadership or citizenry, they'll be at us. It's just human nature, and has always been human nature. Our morality is our strength, and I thought the last presidents biggest morality failing was in his continued denials and passing the buck of blame. Those same character flaws always steered him away from doing the right thing (Bin Laden etc etc etc). If that way of thinking becomes "OK", as evidenced by the supporters of BC and the leadership of the Democratic Party, We are in trouble. With all that is happening on the social fronts, I wonder if the future generations will have what it takes to defend this country.
 
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