Increasing Tongue Length

roscoe

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

My hitch is often in 4 inches of water, truck tires often in 2-4 inches when retrieving the boat.
 

Tacklewasher

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

I use my extension only when needed. Like when I launch from the beach at desolate wilderness locations. I see no need to tow down the highway with it.

I thought about having a 6' extension made for me, but then I found this one, just haven't decided if I need it or not. It gives you 5 to 10 FEET of extension.

http://www.xtend-a-hitchnorthwest.com/

I've looked at this before with the simple thought of "that would be easy to make and add 3' to the tongue". And it would mean you don't have all that extra length while towing.
 

puddle jumper

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Sort of dangerous advice IMHO. Burning off the galvanized coating will give off a very poisonous gas. It doesn't take much to make you sick. It doesn't take much more than that to make you worse.

Not saying you can't weld galvanized, you absolutely can, and I have. But you shouldn't just burn it off. Bad things can happen when you just start welding stuff without fully understanding what you're getting in to.

I urge anyone that welds to read this story (it's short) :
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

In our shop we were warned about welding and brake clean. We have plenty of both happening at all times. That's a good reminder of what can happen.
 

109jb

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Sort of dangerous advice IMHO. Burning off the galvanized coating will give off a very poisonous gas. It doesn't take much to make you sick. It doesn't take much more than that to make you worse.

Not saying you can't weld galvanized, you absolutely can, and I have. But you shouldn't just burn it off. Bad things can happen when you just start welding stuff without fully understanding what you're getting in to.

I urge anyone that welds to read this story (it's short) :
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

Did you even read my whole post??? The part where I stated:

"The thing to worry about is the fumes given off can make you sick."
 

nitsuj

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Yes I read it. I found the advice to be dangerous. Yes, you can weld galvanized steel if you remove the coating first. I agree with that part. Saying it can be burnt off by welding on it is irresponsible. First of all, safety aside, while it's possible to do, it's poor form. No good weldor would advocate just burning off an impurity. You remove it the proper way before welding. Second, it is incredibly dangerous and you can't assume people reading that advice are experienced enough to fully grasp how dangerous the act of welding galvanized steel can be.
 

captharv

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Simple solution:
Remove the square trailer tongue tube, and buy one 18" longer. Should install easily. Usually they bolt on.

If its welded, let a trailer shop do it. That way, its done right, since they have liability.
 

slasmith1

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

To answer your question of how deep you should back in. I never measure by how deep my truck is. Most properly set up trailers I have used needed to be backed in until the fenders on the trailer are just below the surface of the water.
 

ken52

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Thanks again for all the input and advise. Lot of really helpful people here thanks again.
 

ken52

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Maybe those teflon bunk glides I just read about would be a better solution?
 

109jb

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

Yes I read it. I found the advice to be dangerous. Yes, you can weld galvanized steel if you remove the coating first. I agree with that part. Saying it can be burnt off by welding on it is irresponsible. First of all, safety aside, while it's possible to do, it's poor form. No good weldor would advocate just burning off an impurity. You remove it the proper way before welding. Second, it is incredibly dangerous and you can't assume people reading that advice are experienced enough to fully grasp how dangerous the act of welding galvanized steel can be.

Was off the list for a little while but wanted to comment.

First of all, the galvanized (zinc) coating does not constitute an impurity as far as weld strength goes because it is completely burned off. Completely as in it is not there anymore.

As far as the sickness from breathing the fumes, metal fume fever from the zinc-oxide created by burning it off can make you sick. I said that in my original post. As far as how sick, there are no known long tern effects of exposure to the fumes. That comes from the American Welding Society. Below is a link to the AWS document regarding metal fume fever. What you get are flu like symptoms. I agree that you should avoid breathing the fumes, but that can be accomplished by simply using a cartridge respirator, or welding with adequate ventilation. That is why I said in my original post that the fumes can make you sick.


http://img2.aws.org/technical/FACT-PDF.EXE/FACT-25.PDF
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Increasing Tongue Length

I had a job for a summer while in college, welding above ground swimming pool sections together. I worked on an assembly line, where the metal was cut, folded and welded. We made both aluminum and galvanized sections. The usual arrangement was to make aluminum sections for half a day, eat lunch and then make galvanized sections in the afternoon. As such, I welded galvanized 5 days a week, four hours a day, all summer.

I'll vouch for the fact that the galvanized coating burns off in the welded area. We welded the corners of the folded box sections and then welded ribs into them, so there was a fair amount of work for each piece. While not as easy as the aluminum sections to weld, I never had any problem getting a decent bead and didn't experience the kinds of contamination problems that can occur in MIG or TIG welding, in general. As with any other weld, you just had to get the heat and feed right.

What I will say, is that welding galvanized does, indeed, give off a lot of fumes. It also "pops" quite a bit. We had to wear leather, welding "coats," not aprons, to keep from getting burned by the little, molten balls of zinc coating that would fly everywhere. We also had to wear chemical respirators.

As for health issues, I haven't thought about this for years, so I just did a bit of surfing. My take on it is that there are arguments in both directions. As might be expected, industry groups tend to claim that there are no long term effects, while groups that involve themselves in protection of workers, etc., claim there are. My personal view of it now and when I was doing it, is that allowing fumes of any kind to enter your lungs over prolonged periods, can't be conducive to good health. That's why I wore my respirator at all times, insured that it had no leaks and changed the filter cans frequently.

As for the trailer, find someone who knows what he/she is doing and have at it. I did it to one of my trailers and it has been just fine.



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